Honus Wagner

Johannes Peter Wagner
(Hans or The Flying Dutchman)

Bats Right, Throws Right
Height 5' 11", Weight 200 lb.

Debut July 19, 1897
Final Game September 17, 1917
Born February 24, 1874 in Chartiers, PA USA
Died December 6, 1955 in Carnegie, PA USA

Inducted into Hall of Fame in 1936

BR page

Biographical Information[edit]

Introduction[edit]

"He was the nearest thing to a perfect player no matter where his manager chose to play him." - John McGraw

" . . . there is no one who has ever played the game that I would be more anxious to have on a baseball team." - Bill James

"When Pittsburgh had infield or batting practice, we just sat on the bench to watch Wagner's every move. He was the best." - Chief Meyers

"The greatest ball player of all time." - John McGraw, talking about Honus Wagner

"I play basketball, have played it for years. It is great exercise and keeps a man in condition. They say it takes the wind, and I suppose it does. But that's a good thing. It also gives a man a few bruises, but they don't amount to much. Playing basketball keeps a man in shape so he doesn't have to train in spring. That is what hurts a player more than anything else, spring training. I always go on the trips, but I don't train much. I aim to be in condition all the time." -Honus Wagner, in Batting

Honus Wagner resides near the top of the Hall of Fame. Bill James once picked him as the # 2 player of all time behind Babe Ruth, and Wagner ranks # 4 all time by the Gray Ink test of measuring performance. On top of his hitting and base-stealing talents, he had great range at shortstop and played several other positions as well.

Early career[edit]

Hans was born in Mansfield, PA, now Carnegie, PA on February 24, 1874, and was twenty years old when Ed Barrow, manager of the Paterson club of the Atlantic League, sold him for $2,100 to Barney Dreyfuss, then owner of the Louisville Colonels. Harry Pulliam, former president of the National League and then secretary of the Louisville club, put through the deal. Pulliam bid $100 more than was offered by Pittsburgh. So the player was knocked down to Louisville. Pittsburgh, however, was destined to get the famous star three years later when Dreyfuss purchased the Pirate franchise.

Although famous as a shortstop, Wagner did not play a single game at the position during his first four years in the majors. In 1901, however, Bones Ely struggled at shortstop and was released in July. Wagner played 61 games at the position that year, and although he split his time in 1902 between outfield and shortstop, became a shortstop after that.

Career highlights[edit]

Honus Wagner is among the most complete players of all time. His name is often evoked in conversations about the best players ever.

His 131.0 WAR is the best for a Shortstop by 35.1 Wins. The distance between him and the #2 Shortstop (Cal Ripken, Jr. 95.9) is greater than the difference between Ripken and the #16 Shortstop (Jack Glasscock 62.0).

During the Deadball Era, home runs were much more of a rarity than they are today. It was not uncommon for totals of somewhere around ten to top the league. In fact, Wagner's teammate Tommy Leach led the National League in this category in 1902 with a whopping 6 (it must be remembered that many ballparks had capacious dimensions with a few centerfield walls more than 500 feet from home plate). Therefore, using four-base hits as the standard to determine the slugging ability of players from this period would be inaccurate and unfair. This leaves us with two other yardsticks with which to measure a player's power: slugging percentage and ISO.

Wagner led the league in slugging six times and as already mentioned, he has the third highest tally of three-baggers in history, behind only Sam Crawford and Ty Cobb. His ISO of .140 ranks 4th among deadball era players with at least 5000 AB. The top ISO of .143 (Sam Crawford) is only .003 higher, or 1 Base per 333 At Bats. It is fair to say that, when one puts these data into context, Wagner was probably the premier power hitter of his league for much of his career.

His speed cannot be ignored, for he was the NL's top base thief five times. One must also take his consistently high batting averages into consideration, as he finished with a .327 career mark.

And, defensively, he played almost everywhere several times (including two appearances on the mound) with decent results, so it must be said that he was a very versatile fielder. His range was above average, and he possessed a strong arm. Honus Wagner was a true five-tool player.

He was the most dominant player of his era, winning a NL record 8 batting titles (since tied by Tony Gwynn).

He played in two World Series, the 1903 Series against the Boston Americans, and the 1909 Classic, in which he battled Ty Cobb's Detroit Tigers head on and bested the "Georgia Peach" in most offensive categories. He had the distinction of collecting the first-ever RBI in a World Series, driving in teammate Tommy Leach from third base with a single off Cy Young in the 1st inning of Game 1 of the 1903 Series; he also collected the Series' first stolen base a few moments later.

Off the diamond, Honus was remembered as a humble and down-to-earth person, patiently coaching youngsters for the Pirates well into old age. He was more commonly called Hans Wagner while playing. During his career he was sometimes called Johannes, German for John, which was shortened to Honus. He is the brother of Butts Wagner.

He wore no uniform number during his playing career, but usually wore No. 33 as a Pirates coach in the 1920s and 1930s. His number was the first retired by Pittsburgh, in 1952.

In 1936 he was voted, deservedly, as an inaugural member of Baseball's Hall of Fame, trailing only Cobb in the voting. John McGraw, possibly baseball's smartest and craftiest manager, called Wagner the best player he ever saw.

(The following information is from the 1924 publication of The Baseball Bat Bag):

"The greatest ball player of all time." That’s how John J. McGraw, baseball's foremost manager, regards Hans Wagner, the former "Flying Dutchman" of Barney Dreyfuss's Pirates.

"Wagner could do everything as well as anybody who ever played baseball, hit, run and field, and he knew his baseball," said McGraw.

Spectacular and brilliant as Cobb is, he is no greater than Wagner. Sisler may be as great over a span of years, Ruth, a special in home run hitting, cannot be compared with Wagner as an all-round player.

John Henry played 2785 games, went to bat 11766 times, scored 1739 runs and whacked out 3420 hits for a total of 4870 bases, all of them marks which have been aproached by no other Shortstop. It was a big disappointment that Wagner couldn’t wind up his career by hitting for an even 5,000 bases. He missed it by just 2.6%.

Like Sam Crawford, Hans was a barber and handy man in his early days, so they let him serve as a handy man on his different ball clubs. He broke in as an outfielder, and played most every position but the batteries before Fred Clarke located him permanently at short in Pittsburgh. During his 21 years in the National League, he had the splendid fielding percentage of .947, as opposed to the league mark of .927. To show the volume of business Wagner transacted from day to day, he made 7940 putouts, 6782 assists and 828 errors, a total of 15,550 chances.

Despite his weight and awkward appearance, he was a tremendous baserunner. He stole a total of 723 bases. Advanced baserunning metrics are lost on Wagner as we lack Caught Stealing data for his career.

All four of the Bill James Hall of Fame appraisal methods put him in the top 14 players of all time, with three of the four methods putting him in the top eight players of all time.

Manager and Coach[edit]

Wagner served as a major league manager for only five games (in 1917, the same year that he finished up his playing career). He did not want the job but took over the last=place club for a few days after the firing of Nixey Callahan while owner Dreyfuss settled on a more permanent replacement (it was to be Hugo Bezdek, who was better known as a college football coach). However, he was a coach for far longer. In 1932, he tried but was unable to win the job as manager of the Cincinnati Reds, and so turned to coaching with the Pirates. He was a high-profile coach who was very popular with the fans. He retired many years later in 1952. Early in his coaching tenure, he tutored the young Arky Vaughan in defense, and later was around to help Ralph Kiner.

Honus also served as head coach at Carnegie Institute of Technology, and in addition was basketball coach there. In 1928, he ran for sheriff for Allegheny County, but lost in a landslide.

He appeared in at least one movie, a short film dating to about 1909 which was at some point released under the title Spring Fever. He appears as himself, teaching a young boy how to hit; the boy is played by one Moe Horwitz, who would go on to achieve fame as Moe Howard, member of the comedic trio "the Three Stooges". All prints of this film have been lost, but some lobby cards (i.e promotional postcards) dated 1919 have survived. He likely appeared in other short films that have been lost as well.

An Ode to Old Hans Wagner[edit]

1903 E107 Breisch Williams

Sporting Life of March 25, 1916, stated that Wagner had led National League shortstops in fielding in 1915, and printed a poem written by H.J. Flatley, the last stanza of which reads as follows:

But Hans comes back with each passing season,

though some of the youngsters who fight him do not.

And for the return there's a might good reason.

For Hans always sticks with the leaders of swat.

His legs may be bent and his arms racked and strained

And at times he succumbs to fatigue,

But in records his presence is always explained

By the words "Hans again leads the League".

The "Gretzky Wagner"[edit]

One of Wagner's baseball cards is exceedingly rare and was made even more valuable when hockey star Wayne Gretzky purchased it. Later, the T206 Honus Wagner sold at an eBay auction for a record $1.265 Million. His first Baseball Card appearance was on the 1903 E107 Breisch Williams.

Notable Achievements[edit]

8-time NL Batting Average Leader (1900, 1903, 1904, 1906-1909 & 1911)
4-time NL On-Base Percentage Leader (1904 & 1907-1909)
6-time NL Slugging Percentage Leader (1900, 1902, 1904 & 1907-1909)
8-time OPS Leader (1900, 1902, 1904, 1906-1909 & 1911)
2-time NL Runs Scored Leader (1902 & 1906)
2-time NL Hits Leader (1908 & 1910)
6-time NL Total Bases Leader (1900, 1904 & 1906-1909)
7-time NL Doubles Leader (1900, 1902, 1904 & 1906-1909)
3-time NL Triples Leader (1900, 1903 & 1908)
4-time NL RBI Leader (1901, 1902, 1908 & 1909)
5-time NL Stolen Bases Leader (1901, 1902, 1904, 1907 & 1908)
100 RBI Seasons: 9 (1898-1901, 1903, 1905, 1908, 1909 & 1912)
100 Runs Scored Seasons: 6 (1900-1902, 1905, 1906 & 1908)
200 Hits Seasons: 2 (1900 & 1908)
50 Stolen Bases Seasons: 5 (1904-1908)
Won a World Series with the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1909
Baseball Hall of Fame: Class of 1936

Preceded by
Nixey Callahan

Pittsburgh Pirates Manager
1917

Succeeded by
Hugo Bezdek

Year-By-Year Managerial Record[edit]

Year	Team	League	Record	Finish	Organization	Playoffs	Notes
1917	Pittsburgh Pirates	National League	1-4	--	Pittsburgh Pirates		replaced Nixey Callahan (20-40) on June 29/ replaced by Hugo Bezdek on July 4

Records Held[edit]

Singles, right handed batter, career, 2422
Triples, right handed batter, career, 252
Most seasons leading the league in doubles, 8 (tied)

Related Sites[edit]

Search

Namespaces

Views