BR Bullpen:Featured Article Candidates/Ayami Sato

Ayami Sato

• Support We've never had a featured article for a female player and she's been one of the best. - Mischa (talk) 18:47, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
• Support It's time indeed for an article on a female player to be featured, and she has a great track record. Philippe (talk) 19:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm not going to support someone just because they fit a demographic checklist. The article on its merits doesn't fit our standards. Too short (compare hers to all our most recent featured articles). Sourcing is weak, number of images are pretty weak. Alexsautographs (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Responding to different points raised -

• 1) I wasn't meaning that we need to check off numerous demographic boxes. No featured player from New Mexico? Let's put Ralph Kiner in! No player over 7' tall yet? Let's put Loek van Mil in! (Actually, both gentlemen had interesting careers and would be good candidates at some point - I haven't checked Kiner's page to see if it's complete enough) My point was more to use the featured article to expand people's knowledge of areas of the baseball world - ex. Owen Ozanich was featured not so we could have a French player so that people could learn about French baseball.
• 2) In terms of length, it would be one of our shorter features, though double the size of Spread of baseball project (OTOH, that did not go through our usual review process). It's not a lot shorter than Ming-Tsu Lu, which might be our shortest player page to date. I tried to see if we have a rule on page length for featured articles but can't find it. Anybody know?
• 3) Good point on sourcing. I can amend that.
• 4) Number of pictures - I thought 2 is about average for a feature. Some are more, some only have one. - Mischa (talk) 12:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

• Diversity is important, in that we don't want to solely have major league players from the same era as our features. It's worthwhile to reflect the diversity of articles that the bullpen holds - which includes a large number of biographies of female players. I don't mind a shorter article, or one that's not littered with end notes. The importance is that it treats its subject comprehensively and that one can learn about baseball from the article, and that's clearly the case in the proposed article. As for pictures, one is the minimum: just adding barely relevant pictures (e.g. adding a picture of Babe Ruth because the subject once did something usually linked to the Babe) is not going to improve an article. Philippe (talk) 12:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)