Talk:Jair Jurrjens

This headline from honkbalsite is why it's easy to understand Dutch websites - "Solide debuut Jurrjens voor Detroit Tigers" - compared to South Korean ones - --Mischa 16:52, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

Calvin Maduro was born in Aruba. That would make him the first pitcher from the Dutch Antilles (unless Aruba is not included among them). --Philippe 06:36, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

Aruba was part of the Dutch Antilles when Maduro was born but Aruba was no longer part of them by the time he was playing. Tough call. I was going by a Dutch news site which did not list the Arubans as being from the Antilles. - --Mischa 08:25, 21 August 2007 (EDT)