Talk:Hal Rice

What does the Banks-Baker factoid have to do with Rice??? - --Mischa 16:10, 9 March 2007 (EST)

To me, it sets the scene to understand the end of his career. Where was he? The 1954 Cubs. What was the biggest thing going on then? The integration of the team. To me, that's as relevant to history as his range factor. And it's not obvious from looking at the stats. - Randy 16:17 9 March 2007 (EST)

I think there still needs to be some narrative to explain how that affected his career. Did he have to back up more or less plays in the outfield because of a black DP tandem? --Jeff 18:11, 9 March 2007 (EST)

I don't know that it affected his career at all. It's the backdrop, or rather the end of his career was the backdrop for which this was at front stage. - Randy 18:15 9 March 207 (EST)

Which makes a big story on the 1954 Cubs page. --Jeff 18:21, 9 March 2007 (EST)

I've deleted it, but I still think it's not a story if you have to refer to other pages to find out the picture. - Randy 18:50 9 March 2007 (EST)

The DP tandem is absolutely a story worth telling. I didn't know it was the first one for the Cubs, and I do now. It needs to be told though, on a page where it had an effect. The 54 Cubs, the players themselves, maybe even the manager who had to play them, or the GM who put them together, just not a backup OF. I'm not trying to stop you from telling stories (I couldn't anyway), I just think the content should be put in the right places. --Jeff 18:54, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Hal Rice had a seven-year major league career in the National League as a back-up outfielder. He mostly played left field. During much of his career he was with the St. Louis Cardinals where Stan Musial was the left fielder, but Musial typically moved around a lot to first base or center field, giving Rice the opportunity to play.

He came to the 1953 Pittsburgh Pirates in the middle of the season shortly after the Bucs had traded left fielder Ralph Kiner. Rice ended up playing more left field than anyone else on the team that season.

Rice closed out his career with the 1954 Cubs, filling in for Hank Sauer in right field.

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