Shall Not Pass Or Make Much Contact
Posted by Steve Lombardi on December 15, 2009
A strange list via Baseball-Reference.com's Play Index Batting Season Finder - players with 502+ PA in a season where their whiffs were greater than 7 times their walks:
Rk | SO | BB | PA | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | IBB | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | ||||||
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1 | Charley Smith | 123 | 17 | 531 | 1965 | 27 | NYM | NL | 135 | 499 | 49 | 122 | 20 | 3 | 16 | 62 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 13 | 2 | 1 | .244 | .273 | .393 | .666 | *5/64 | |
2 | Ivan Rodriguez | 93 | 11 | 525 | 2005 | 33 | DET | AL | 129 | 504 | 71 | 139 | 33 | 5 | 14 | 50 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 7 | 19 | 7 | 3 | .276 | .290 | .444 | .735 | *2/D | |
3 | Ivan Rodriguez | 96 | 9 | 515 | 2007 | 35 | DET | AL | 129 | 502 | 50 | 141 | 31 | 3 | 11 | 63 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 16 | 2 | 2 | .281 | .294 | .420 | .714 | *2/D | |
4 | Tony Pena | 78 | 10 | 536 | 2007 | 26 | KCR | AL | 152 | 509 | 58 | 136 | 25 | 7 | 2 | 47 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 13 | 5 | 6 | .267 | .284 | .356 | .640 | *6/4 | |
5 | Corey Patterson | 142 | 19 | 628 | 2002 | 22 | CHC | NL | 153 | 592 | 71 | 150 | 30 | 5 | 14 | 54 | 1 | 8 | 4 | 5 | 8 | 18 | 3 | .253 | .284 | .392 | .676 | *8 | |
6 | John Leary | 71 | 10 | 552 | 1914 | 23 | SLB | AL | 144 | 533 | 35 | 141 | 28 | 7 | 0 | 45 | 0 | 3 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 15 | .265 | .282 | .343 | .625 | *32 | |
7 | Alex Gonzalez | 113 | 15 | 591 | 1999 | 22 | FLA | NL | 136 | 560 | 81 | 155 | 28 | 8 | 14 | 59 | 0 | 12 | 1 | 3 | 13 | 3 | 5 | .277 | .308 | .430 | .739 | *6 | |
8 | Juan Encarnacion | 113 | 14 | 538 | 1999 | 23 | DET | AL | 132 | 509 | 62 | 130 | 30 | 6 | 19 | 74 | 1 | 9 | 4 | 2 | 12 | 33 | 12 | .255 | .287 | .450 | .736 | *78/9 | |
9 | Shawon Dunston | 75 | 10 | 503 | 1995 | 32 | CHC | NL | 127 | 477 | 58 | 141 | 30 | 6 | 14 | 69 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 3 | 8 | 10 | 5 | .296 | .317 | .472 | .788 | *6 | |
10 | Shawon Dunston | 75 | 8 | 511 | 1997 | 34 | TOT | NL | 132 | 490 | 71 | 147 | 22 | 5 | 14 | 57 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 9 | 32 | 8 | .300 | .312 | .451 | .763 | *6/7 | |
11 | Mariano Duncan | 88 | 12 | 518 | 1993 | 30 | PHI | NL | 124 | 496 | 68 | 140 | 26 | 4 | 11 | 73 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 13 | 6 | 5 | .282 | .304 | .417 | .721 | *46 | |
12 | Todd Cruz | 95 | 12 | 519 | 1982 | 26 | SEA | AL | 136 | 492 | 44 | 113 | 20 | 2 | 16 | 57 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 10 | .230 | .246 | .376 | .622 | *6 | |
13 | Billy Cowan | 128 | 18 | 520 | 1964 | 25 | CHC | NL | 139 | 497 | 52 | 120 | 16 | 4 | 19 | 50 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 12 | 3 | .241 | .268 | .404 | .673 | *8 |
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It's only been done 13 times in baseball history and 7 of those times its been done by someone playing for the Tigers or the Cubs. And, how 'bout John Leary? He was the first to do it, ever, and then had to wait 50 years for someone else to join the club.
December 15th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Actually Jerry Denny, Billy O'Brien, and Bill Kuehne all did this in 1888, so they had to wait 26 years for someone to join them and then those guys had to wait another 50 years. Also, why don't you ever include pre-1901 seasons on your blogs?
December 16th, 2009 at 10:03 am
My undertstanding of professional baseball circa 1876-1900 - meaning the National League, American Association (1882-91), Union Association (1884) and Players League (1890) - was that foul balls were not strikes during this period. A base on balls once required three balls, then nine, then eight, then seven. then six, then back to seven before finally landing at four. Pitching distances were moved from 45 feet to 50 feet to 60.5 feet. And, for a while, pitchers were prohibited to throw over the shoulder and batters were permitted to call for high or low strikes to be thrown to them. Lastly, until 1893, batters were allowed to use a bat that was flat on one side.
It was a totally different game from what we know know - that's generally why I like my clock to start at 1901.
December 16th, 2009 at 10:33 am
All fair points Steve. I usually like to search from 1893, when the mound went back to 60 feet, but depending on what you're looking for, different starting points can be appropriate. One might argue that baseball after 1900 still looked very different from what we know, with a dirty wet ball made of mush, all the bunting, tiny gloves, etc. But I suppose most of the modern rules were in place, it was just a matter of strategy and equipment changing over time.
Just be wary of saying "in baseball history" when baseball did have a lot of history prior to the 20th century.
December 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
The 502 PA threshhold came into being with the advent of the 162-game season. If the equivalent 154-game standard (477 PA) and 140-game standard (prior to 1904) (434 PA) were used, we probably did not go 50 years without a qualifying season.
December 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
No dice JDV - The built in "qualified for the batting title" option, which uses the requirements of the time (usually way more lenient than 3.1 PA/g) returns no extra players.
December 16th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Good enough.
December 16th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Yeah but there were rules changes in later years too, so I think you should just go from 1871-2009, maybe 1876-2009.