Mike Cameron – an odd bird
Posted by Andy on December 15, 2009
The latest rumors have the Red Sox signing Mike Cameron to play left field in a platoon with Jeremy Hermida.
Cameron has had a long strange career.
For starters, he's a pretty unlikely member of the 4-homers-in-a-game club.
Here's a reminder of the post-1954 members of that group:
Rk | Player | Date | Tm | Opp | Rslt | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | BOP | Pos. Summary |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Carlos Delgado | 2003-09-25 | TOR | TBD | W 10-8 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 1B |
2 | Shawn Green | 2002-05-23 | LAD | MIL | W 16-3 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 3 | RF |
3 | Mike Cameron | 2002-05-02 | SEA | CHW | W 15-4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 3 | CF |
4 | Mark Whiten | 1993-09-07 (2) | STL | CIN | W 15-2 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 12 | 0 | 0 | 6 | CF |
5 | Bob Horner | 1986-07-06 | ATL | MON | L 8-11 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 1B |
6 | Mike Schmidt | 1976-04-17 | PHI | CHC | W 18-16 | 6 | 4 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 3B |
7 | Willie Mays | 1961-04-30 | SFG | MLN | W 14-4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 3 | CF |
8 | Rocky Colavito | 1959-06-10 | CLE | BAL | W 11-8 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 4 | RF |
9 | Joe Adcock | 1954-07-31 | MLN | BRO | W 15-7 | 5 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1B |
I suspect that Cameron's name will be the oddest one in this group for many years to come, although Whiten and Horner also had comparatively short major-league careers.
Here's another thing about Cameron. While he's not a terribly good hitter, his OPS values always end up above average. He has a string of 11 straight years with an OPS+ of at least 104 and his career value is 107. He's no superstar with the bat but he's solid and, perhaps more importantly, consistent.
Since 1901 here are the players with the most seasons having an OPS+ of at least 104 but a batting average no higher than .273.
Rk | Yrs | To | From | Age | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Darrell Evans | 15 | 1971 | 1988 | 24-41 | |
2 | Graig Nettles | 13 | 1968 | 1985 | 23-40 | |
3 | Mike Cameron | 12 | 1997 | 2009 | 24-36 | |
4 | Rick Monday | 11 | 1967 | 1983 | 21-37 | |
5 | Joe Morgan | 11 | 1963 | 1983 | 19-39 | |
6 | Norm Cash | 11 | 1959 | 1974 | 24-39 | |
7 | Jose Canseco | 10 | 1986 | 2001 | 21-36 | |
8 | Gene Tenace | 10 | 1973 | 1982 | 26-35 | |
9 | Don Baylor | 10 | 1972 | 1986 | 23-37 | |
10 | Jimmy Wynn | 10 | 1963 | 1976 | 21-34 |
Interesting group, eh? Joe Morgan is the odd man out here because, as the only middle-infielder on the list, he was actually an above-average offensive player (for his position) and managed to make the group. The rest of these players were all good, most had a couple of excellent seasons, but none was a superstar.
Cameron and the rest of these guys all fit a similar mode: decent power and decent walk rate. Bumps to OBP from walks or to SLG from occasional homers--that's how these guys kept their OPS+ values on the good side of 100 despite having lower batting averages. (I know the search limited to .273, which is not a bad batting average, but keep in mind that Cameron's career BA is .250. Most of the guys on the list above were below .260 in their careers.)
Here's another club for which Cameron carries a membership card: striking out in at least 24% of one's plate appearances (minimum 3000 PAs):
Rk | Player | PA | SO | To | From | Age | G | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | Pos | Tm | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Jim Thome | 9463 | 2313 | 1991 | 2009 | 20-38 | 2284 | 7706 | 1486 | 2138 | 412 | 24 | 564 | 1565 | 1619 | .277 | .404 | .557 | .961 | 3D5 | CLE-PHI-CHW-TOT |
2 | Mike Cameron | 7435 | 1798 | 1995 | 2009 | 22-36 | 1829 | 6440 | 1013 | 1610 | 362 | 59 | 265 | 926 | 825 | .250 | .340 | .448 | .788 | *89/7D | CHW-CIN-SEA-NYM-SDP-MIL |
3 | Dave Kingman | 7429 | 1816 | 1971 | 1986 | 22-37 | 1941 | 6677 | 901 | 1575 | 240 | 25 | 442 | 1210 | 608 | .236 | .302 | .478 | .780 | 37D59/1 | SFG-NYM-TOT-CHC-OAK |
4 | Dean Palmer | 5513 | 1332 | 1989 | 2003 | 20-34 | 1357 | 4902 | 734 | 1229 | 231 | 15 | 275 | 849 | 502 | .251 | .324 | .472 | .796 | *5D/736 | TEX-TOT-KCR-DET |
5 | Gorman Thomas | 5486 | 1339 | 1973 | 1986 | 22-35 | 1436 | 4677 | 681 | 1051 | 212 | 13 | 268 | 782 | 697 | .225 | .324 | .448 | .772 | *8D9/735 | MIL-TOT-SEA |
6 | Adam Dunn | 5417 | 1433 | 2001 | 2009 | 21-29 | 1290 | 4417 | 780 | 1101 | 230 | 8 | 316 | 777 | 913 | .249 | .383 | .520 | .903 | *739/D | CIN-TOT-WSN |
7 | Jose Hernandez | 5089 | 1391 | 1991 | 2006 | 21-36 | 1587 | 4618 | 623 | 1166 | 193 | 33 | 168 | 603 | 384 | .252 | .312 | .418 | .729 | *654/3789 | TEX-CLE-CHC-TOT-MIL-LAD |
8 | Pete Incaviglia | 4677 | 1277 | 1986 | 1998 | 22-34 | 1284 | 4233 | 546 | 1043 | 194 | 21 | 206 | 655 | 360 | .246 | .310 | .448 | .758 | *79D/83 | TEX-DET-HOU-PHI-TOT |
9 | Rob Deer | 4512 | 1409 | 1984 | 1996 | 23-35 | 1155 | 3881 | 578 | 853 | 148 | 13 | 230 | 600 | 575 | .220 | .324 | .442 | .766 | *97/3D8 | SFG-MIL-DET-TOT-SDP |
10 | Preston Wilson | 4436 | 1085 | 1998 | 2007 | 23-32 | 1108 | 4003 | 573 | 1055 | 221 | 16 | 189 | 668 | 350 | .264 | .329 | .468 | .797 | *87/9 | TOT-FLA-COL-STL |
11 | Cory Snyder | 3933 | 992 | 1986 | 1994 | 23-31 | 1068 | 3656 | 439 | 902 | 178 | 13 | 149 | 488 | 226 | .247 | .291 | .425 | .716 | *9/763584D | CLE-TOT-SFG-LAD |
12 | Brad Wilkerson | 3753 | 947 | 2001 | 2008 | 24-31 | 972 | 3187 | 500 | 788 | 193 | 28 | 122 | 399 | 492 | .247 | .350 | .440 | .790 | 7389/D | MON-WSN-TEX-TOT |
13 | Carlos Pena | 3713 | 973 | 2001 | 2009 | 23-31 | 929 | 3136 | 495 | 776 | 153 | 20 | 202 | 566 | 495 | .247 | .355 | .502 | .858 | *3/D7 | TEX-TOT-DET-BOS-TBD-TBR |
14 | Steve Balboni | 3440 | 856 | 1981 | 1993 | 24-36 | 960 | 3120 | 351 | 714 | 127 | 11 | 181 | 495 | 273 | .229 | .293 | .451 | .743 | *3D | NYY-KCR-TOT-TEX |
15 | Henry Rodriguez | 3343 | 803 | 1992 | 2002 | 24-34 | 950 | 3031 | 389 | 784 | 176 | 9 | 160 | 523 | 276 | .259 | .321 | .481 | .802 | *7/39D | LAD-TOT-MON-CHC-NYY |
16 | Ryan Howard | 3145 | 878 | 2004 | 2009 | 24-29 | 732 | 2687 | 465 | 750 | 136 | 11 | 222 | 640 | 406 | .279 | .376 | .586 | .961 | *3/D | PHI |
17 | Don Lock | 3116 | 776 | 1962 | 1969 | 25-32 | 921 | 2695 | 359 | 642 | 92 | 12 | 122 | 373 | 373 | .238 | .331 | .417 | .748 | *87/93 | WSA-PHI-TOT |
18 | Bill Hall | 3079 | 797 | 2002 | 2009 | 22-29 | 865 | 2796 | 380 | 701 | 185 | 18 | 104 | 379 | 236 | .251 | .309 | .441 | .750 | 5684/79 | MIL-TOT |
19 | Jason LaRue | 3040 | 753 | 1999 | 2009 | 25-35 | 893 | 2663 | 304 | 617 | 147 | 7 | 94 | 343 | 232 | .232 | .316 | .398 | .714 | *2/3579D | CIN-KCR-STL |
20 | Ron Kittle | 3013 | 744 | 1982 | 1991 | 24-33 | 843 | 2708 | 356 | 648 | 100 | 3 | 176 | 460 | 236 | .239 | .306 | .473 | .779 | 7D/398 | CHW-TOT-NYY-CLE |
This is kind of surprising, isn't it? It makes Cameron seem like a pretty good slugger and run-producer, at least if you cherry pick Jim Thome and Ryan Howard off here. On the other hand, grouping him with Jose Hernandez and Pete Incaviglia paints a different picture, as far as perception goes.
You can put me down in the Mike Cameron fan club. He's not a perfect player, but he provides significant offense and is very consistent. At the right price, I'd take the guy on my team.
December 15th, 2009 at 11:53 am
I'm a Mike Cameron fan as well. His real value, however, lies in his defense. He's a tremendous defender who hits just enough to make him an above-average player overall. It will be interesting to see where the Sox choose to play him.
December 15th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Depends on whether they trade Ellsbury in the Adrian Gonzalez deal.
Check out the sponsorship on Ellsbury's page by the way.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/ellsbja01.shtml
December 15th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Poor Cameron spent his prime in tough hitting parks (Safeco, Shea, Petco). Safeco was especially tough on him; it's not a good park for righties and for whatever reasons it just crushed his numbers. I think if he had spent those seasons anywhere else he would have been considered one of the best players in baseball. Anyway, he's still had a fine a career and remains a very fine player, though it would be a waste to use him in Fenway's left field.
December 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
As a Sox fan, I'm stoked. If healthy, they'll have arguably the best rotation in the game. They'll have an excellent defensive outfield that is neither overly expensive nor terribly hopeless at the plate. And if all goes according to plan, they'll get a better version of Mark Teixeira. Make it happen, Theo!
December 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I would argue that Canseco was a superstar for a while, at least late 80's/early 90's haha.
As for Cameron, I think he'll be a pretty solid contributor to the Red Sox. Taking a career UZR/150 of -8 (Bay) and replacing it with a career UZR/150 of 5.4 (Cameron) is going to make those Red Sox pitchers a lot happier. Man, who would have thought that the Red Sox valued defense in left field?
That said, Cameron is platooning with Hermida, who is a -8.9 UZR/150 for his career. So...that's awkward.