Tim Redding Part 2
Posted by Raphy on July 13, 2008
Tim Redding finally got a win on Friday night ending his streak of 9 consecutive starts without a decision. (1 short of the (post 1956?) record ).
However, Redding did pitch 6 innings in that game, keeping alive an unprecedented (at least since 1956) streak. Since April 13 Redding has made 18 starts. In every single one of those starts he has pitched at least 5 innings, but no more than six and 1/3. This by far shatters the (post 1956) record of 13 consecutive starts.
Here are the leaders:
StreakStart Streak End Games W L GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA HBP WP BK Teams +-----------------+-----------+-----------+-----+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Tim Redding 2008-04-13 2008-07-11 18 6 2 18 0 0 0 0 103.2 107 50 48 33 70 12 4.17 3 6 0 WSN Josh Fogg 2005-07-26 2006-04-24 13 4 5 13 0 0 0 0 72.1 91 46 40 23 34 9 4.98 2 3 0 PIT-COL Javier Vazquez 2006-05-23 2006-07-30 12 5 3 12 0 0 0 0 70.2 90 53 51 22 57 10 6.50 8 2 0 CHW Cory Lidle 2006-05-16 2006-07-15 12 3 3 12 0 0 0 0 70.2 75 40 39 31 47 11 4.97 5 2 0 PHI Jimmy Haynes 2002-06-16 2002-08-13 12 5 3 12 0 0 0 0 69.2 80 36 36 27 39 8 4.65 0 1 0 CIN Andy Ashby 1996-06-05 1996-09-28 12 2 3 12 0 0 0 0 66 68 27 25 16 35 7 3.41 2 2 0 SDP Mike Pelfrey 2007-05-01 2008-04-09 11 4 6 11 0 0 0 0 60.2 65 35 33 31 40 4 4.90 7 2 0 NYM Jeff Suppan 2007-06-22 2007-08-17 11 1 3 11 0 0 0 0 60.1 79 36 35 24 41 2 5.22 3 6 0 MIL Jaret Wright 2006-04-28 2006-06-27 11 4 4 11 0 0 0 0 59.2 63 27 26 22 30 4 3.92 2 3 0 NYY Kirk Rueter 2001-08-07 2001-10-07 11 3 5 11 0 0 0 0 62.1 69 26 26 16 22 6 3.75 1 0 0 SFG Kevin Brown 2001-05-23 2001-09-22 11 5 2 11 0 0 0 0 61 56 25 23 28 50 5 3.39 1 2 0 LAD Hipolito Pichardo 1992-05-20 1992-07-16 11 4 3 11 0 0 0 0 62.2 62 26 22 23 26 3 3.16 0 2 0 KCR Ron Robinson 1985-10-05 1987-08-10 11 4 2 11 0 0 0 0 64.1 67 30 29 17 39 4 4.06 0 1 0 CIN
July 14th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
Not to be dismissive but when I read something like this, I have to ask: what's the point? (A) Does this help me understand the game of baseball, or (B) is it an interesting and/or cool stat? What is the significance of completing 5 to 6 1/3 innings in every start? I guess it shows some kind of perverse consistency although if that's what you're going for, why not show streaks of exactly 5 innings, or streaks of "5 to X" innings where X is a number with some significance to it? Why did you set X equal to 6.1 except to justify a use of the tool?
July 14th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
I'm sorry that you did not find this stat interesting. I was certainly not trying to justify the use of this tool.
I was looking into Redding because, as I mentioned a week or two ago he was (and is) the leader this season in terms of starting games in which his team has won.
I thought that this was interesting.
Then I wondered why it was that Redding had won so few games, if his team has won so many of his starts. I then discovered his consecutive no decision streak.
I thought that this was interesting as well.
After that I began to wonder how it was that Redding had so many no-decisions. It was then that I noticed that he had been remarkably consistent in his mediocrity in terms of innings pitched. This was not because of a predetermined measure or because of whatever comfort people seem to have in whole numbers. It was because this is what Redding had actually done. If this streak had happened a year ago it wouldn't have interested me. If three other people had done this, it wouldn't have interested me. However, Redding is the middle of this streak now, and no one ever has been in the middle of such a streak. This I do find interesting.
July 17th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Click through to see the list of decision-less starts and then look at John D'Acquisto's game log from 1977. He had 10 starts in a row without a decision....and only pitched 24 2/3 innings!! He had one 5 inning stint and another 6 inning stint and everything else was much less. How his teams bailed him out time after time when he buried them in the first or second inning was amazing.
I find that type of incompetence amazing, but find even more amazing the concrete example of the dugout saying, "We'll pick you up!"
July 19th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Aw, you jinxed him.