Both Teams 1 Hit or Less
Posted by Raphy on June 13, 2010
As reader WanderingWinder mentioned in a different thread, the White-Sox and Cubs are now in the 7th inning and neither team has a hit. While PI doesn't help us find games that went deep without a hit, here are the 4 games (1920-1939, 1952-2010) in which both teams recorded 1 or fewer hits in a game.
| Rk | Tm | Opp | Date | #Matching |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | LAD | CHC | 1965-09-09 | 2 |
| 2 | BAL | KCA | 1964-09-12 | 2 |
| 3 | BAL | CHW | 1956-06-21 | 2 |
| 4 | CLE | SLB | 1952-04-23 | 2 |
I don't have time to elaborate, but if anyone would like to describe these games, please feel free.
June 13th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
First hits were in the seventh, seventh, first, and first innings, respectively.
June 13th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I;ve done a lot of work on double no-hitters.
At 36 outs, we were down to just four longer double no-hit bids in baseball history:
37 outs, Brown-Van Landingham, June 10, 1997
40 outs, Trout-May, July 13, 1980 (I was at this one!)
41 outs, Koufax-Hendley, July 9, 1965
55 outs, Toney-Vaughn, May 2, 1917
June 13th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Ends at 41 outs. Ties the famous Koufax-Hendley game for second place on the list.
June 13th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
in 1917 at wrigely there were 2 full no hitters
June 13th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Anyone interested in a newspaper account of the 1917 "double no-hitter" described by SJBlonger and Cubbies can find it preserved here.
June 13th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
And there goes the no-no - Pierre with the PH single to lead off the 9th in the rain.
June 13th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
@ comment 2: According to the "today in history" on the B-R bullpen (which I JUST looked at), on this date in 1905, Christy Mathewson beat Mordecai Brown in a game that was a double no-no through eight. I'd postulate that the reason this doesn't appear on your list is either A) Mathewson actually got the no-hitter or B) it's too old
June 13th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Thanks for the tip, WanderingWinder. My research covers the known play-by-play database. I'm not surprised there was one before that. I'll add it to my list.
June 13th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
I added links to 3 of the games I mentioned above, for reference.
37 outs, Brown-Van Landingham, June 10, 1997 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SFN/SFN199706100.shtml)
40 outs, Trout-May, July 13, 1980 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA198007130.shtml)
41 outs, Koufax-Hendley, July 9, 1965 (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/LAN/LAN196509090.shtml)
55 outs, Toney-Vaughn, May 2, 1917
June 13th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
If I recall correctly, although the only hitter in the Koufax game did not lead to the only run; in fact, I think it was Lou Johnson that got the hit, then scored a couple of innings later. I also seem to recall that the game was also Bob Henley's career best. And finally, I recall screaming at Lou Klein through the T.V. screen the whole game. I doubt if he heard me, though.
June 14th, 2010 at 2:07 am
A couple of other games where each team got only one hit: Philadelphia vs Baltimore, American Association (a major league at the time), 20 August 1886, and Cleveland vs Washington, American League, 27 July 1915. Another two-hit game was Baltimore vs Detroit, 1st game of a doubleheader, 30 April 1967, but the Orioles got both hits.
June 14th, 2010 at 8:00 am
Upon further review, the information about the 1905 Mathewson-Brown game mentioned in the "Today in History" item is incorrect. It was not a double no-hitter for eight innings.
"The No-Hit Hall of Fame" by Rich Coberly has a box score and contemporaneous account of the game. The Giants had six hits total, and the account specifies that one of them came in the second inning, and four of them in the ninth when they scored their run. I wondered how I could have missed such an obvious hit.
June 14th, 2010 at 9:09 am
[...] You Are Here > Baseball-Reference.com > Blog > Baseball Stats and Analysis Baseball Reference Blog Numbers, News, and Notes « Both Teams 1 Hit or Less [...]
June 14th, 2010 at 9:10 am
Folks, the PBP is right there at the link, so there's no need to guess. Lou Johnson's hit was the only hit by either team in Sandy Koufax's perfect game, and it didn't factor in the scoring.
The Cubs-Reds game of May 2, 1917 had two hits, both by the Reds in the 10th.
June 14th, 2010 at 10:58 am
In the two Oriole games, all four hits were doubles.
June 14th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Another two-hit game was Baltimore vs Detroit, 1st game of a doubleheader, 30 April 1967, but the Orioles got both hits.
And lost.
June 14th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Thanks, Vidor; I thought I was remembering correctly. But then, being a Cubs fan in those days, with their supposed "College of Coaches", ranks just behind the Reds trading Robinson to the Orioles as a bad memory to me.
June 14th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
Cubs and Reds fan? Explain yourself, Mr. Clingenpeel.
June 15th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Johnny, I was as a youth able to make trips to both Crosley Field and Wrigley a few times each summer, so I sort of became both a Cubs and Reds fan. My only issue was when they played each other -- and then, I always rooted for the Redlegs.