Winning While Underperforming
Posted by Raphy on December 13, 2009
Reader Ollie1000 writes,
one oddity about Gooden's career I noticed besides the fact he was a superhuman monster on the mound as a 19 and 20 year old is that in 1990 he was 19 and 7 but had an era+ of 98, does that also seem odd to you all? I wonder what the best all time record was for an era+ in double digits?
Let's take a look. Using the Pitching Season Finder, limiting our search to pitchers who qualified for the W-L % title, filtering by ERA+<=99 and sorting by W-L% yields the following results:
Rk | Player | Year | Tm | Lg | G | GS | W | L | SV | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | |||
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1 | Jim Coates | .813 | 83 | 1960 | NYY | AL | 35 | 18 | 13 | 3 | 1 | 149.1 | 139 | 78 | 71 | 66 | 73 | 4.28 |
2 | Hooks Wiltse | .813 | 96 | 1904 | NYG | NL | 24 | 16 | 13 | 3 | 3 | 164.2 | 150 | 66 | 52 | 61 | 105 | 2.84 |
3 | Paul Abbott | .810 | 98 | 2001 | SEA | AL | 28 | 27 | 17 | 4 | 0 | 163.0 | 145 | 79 | 77 | 87 | 118 | 4.25 |
4 | Ed Wells | .800 | 83 | 1930 | NYY | AL | 27 | 21 | 12 | 3 | 0 | 150.2 | 185 | 91 | 87 | 49 | 46 | 5.20 |
5 | Preacher Roe | .786 | 98 | 1953 | BRO | NL | 25 | 24 | 11 | 3 | 0 | 157.0 | 171 | 78 | 76 | 40 | 85 | 4.36 |
6 | Eddie Rommel | .786 | 98 | 1927 | PHA | AL | 30 | 17 | 11 | 3 | 1 | 146.2 | 166 | 83 | 71 | 48 | 33 | 4.36 |
7 | Mark Wohlers | .778 | 92 | 1994 | ATL | NL | 51 | 0 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 51.0 | 51 | 35 | 26 | 33 | 58 | 4.59 |
8 | Bob Wickman | .778 | 90 | 1993 | NYY | AL | 41 | 19 | 14 | 4 | 4 | 140.0 | 156 | 82 | 72 | 69 | 70 | 4.63 |
9 | Pete Vuckovich | .778 | 97 | 1981 | MIL | AL | 24 | 23 | 14 | 4 | 0 | 149.2 | 137 | 61 | 59 | 57 | 84 | 3.55 |
10 | Lefty Gomez | .774 | 97 | 1932 | NYY | AL | 37 | 31 | 24 | 7 | 1 | 265.1 | 266 | 140 | 124 | 105 | 176 | 4.21 |
11 | Willard Schmidt | .769 | 83 | 1957 | STL | NL | 40 | 8 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 116.2 | 146 | 67 | 62 | 49 | 63 | 4.78 |
12 | George Pipgras | .769 | 93 | 1927 | NYY | AL | 29 | 21 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 166.1 | 148 | 81 | 76 | 77 | 81 | 4.11 |
13 | Lou North | .769 | 87 | 1922 | STL | NL | 53 | 11 | 10 | 3 | 4 | 149.2 | 164 | 90 | 74 | 64 | 84 | 4.45 |
14 | Bernie Boland | .769 | 72 | 1916 | DET | AL | 46 | 9 | 10 | 3 | 3 | 130.1 | 111 | 69 | 57 | 73 | 59 | 3.94 |
15 | Ken Holloway | .765 | 93 | 1925 | DET | AL | 38 | 14 | 13 | 4 | 2 | 157.2 | 170 | 90 | 81 | 67 | 29 | 4.62 |
16 | Jack Bentley | .762 | 97 | 1924 | NYG | NL | 28 | 24 | 16 | 5 | 1 | 188.0 | 196 | 85 | 79 | 56 | 60 | 3.78 |
17 | Larry Christenson | .760 | 99 | 1977 | PHI | NL | 34 | 34 | 19 | 6 | 0 | 219.1 | 229 | 113 | 99 | 69 | 118 | 4.06 |
18 | Glen Perkins | .750 | 95 | 2008 | MIN | AL | 26 | 26 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 151.0 | 183 | 81 | 74 | 39 | 74 | 4.41 |
19 | Fred Norman | .750 | 96 | 1975 | CIN | NL | 34 | 26 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 188.0 | 163 | 85 | 78 | 84 | 119 | 3.73 |
20 | Chuck Dobson | .750 | 88 | 1971 | OAK | AL | 30 | 30 | 15 | 5 | 0 | 189.0 | 185 | 84 | 80 | 71 | 100 | 3.81 |
21 | Jose Santiago | .750 | 98 | 1967 | BOS | AL | 50 | 11 | 12 | 4 | 5 | 145.1 | 138 | 61 | 58 | 47 | 109 | 3.59 |
22 | Ed Lopat | .750 | 97 | 1954 | NYY | AL | 26 | 23 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 170.0 | 189 | 74 | 67 | 33 | 54 | 3.55 |
23 | Russ Meyer | .750 | 94 | 1953 | BRO | NL | 34 | 32 | 15 | 5 | 0 | 191.1 | 201 | 109 | 97 | 63 | 106 | 4.56 |
24 | Firpo Marberry | .750 | 96 | 1934 | DET | AL | 38 | 19 | 15 | 5 | 3 | 155.2 | 174 | 92 | 79 | 48 | 64 | 4.57 |
25 | Russ Van Atta | .750 | 93 | 1933 | NYY | AL | 26 | 22 | 12 | 4 | 1 | 157.0 | 160 | 81 | 73 | 63 | 76 | 4.18 |
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Gooden is tied for 31st. If you limit the list to players who started at least 60% of their games, Gooden jumps to #20.
Rk | Player | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | GS | W | L | SV | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Hooks Wiltse | .813 | 96 | 1904 | 24 | NYG | NL | 24 | 16 | 13 | 3 | 3 | 164.2 | 150 | 66 | 52 | 61 | 105 | 2.84 |
2 | Paul Abbott | .810 | 98 | 2001 | 33 | SEA | AL | 28 | 27 | 17 | 4 | 0 | 163.0 | 145 | 79 | 77 | 87 | 118 | 4.25 |
3 | Ed Wells | .800 | 83 | 1930 | 30 | NYY | AL | 27 | 21 | 12 | 3 | 0 | 150.2 | 185 | 91 | 87 | 49 | 46 | 5.20 |
4 | Preacher Roe | .786 | 98 | 1953 | 38 | BRO | NL | 25 | 24 | 11 | 3 | 0 | 157.0 | 171 | 78 | 76 | 40 | 85 | 4.36 |
5 | Pete Vuckovich | .778 | 97 | 1981 | 28 | MIL | AL | 24 | 23 | 14 | 4 | 0 | 149.2 | 137 | 61 | 59 | 57 | 84 | 3.55 |
6 | Lefty Gomez | .774 | 97 | 1932 | 23 | NYY | AL | 37 | 31 | 24 | 7 | 1 | 265.1 | 266 | 140 | 124 | 105 | 176 | 4.21 |
7 | George Pipgras | .769 | 93 | 1927 | 27 | NYY | AL | 29 | 21 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 166.1 | 148 | 81 | 76 | 77 | 81 | 4.11 |
8 | Jack Bentley | .762 | 97 | 1924 | 29 | NYG | NL | 28 | 24 | 16 | 5 | 1 | 188.0 | 196 | 85 | 79 | 56 | 60 | 3.78 |
9 | Larry Christenson | .760 | 99 | 1977 | 23 | PHI | NL | 34 | 34 | 19 | 6 | 0 | 219.1 | 229 | 113 | 99 | 69 | 118 | 4.06 |
10 | Glen Perkins | .750 | 95 | 2008 | 25 | MIN | AL | 26 | 26 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 151.0 | 183 | 81 | 74 | 39 | 74 | 4.41 |
11 | Fred Norman | .750 | 96 | 1975 | 32 | CIN | NL | 34 | 26 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 188.0 | 163 | 85 | 78 | 84 | 119 | 3.73 |
12 | Chuck Dobson | .750 | 88 | 1971 | 27 | OAK | AL | 30 | 30 | 15 | 5 | 0 | 189.0 | 185 | 84 | 80 | 71 | 100 | 3.81 |
13 | Ed Lopat | .750 | 97 | 1954 | 36 | NYY | AL | 26 | 23 | 12 | 4 | 0 | 170.0 | 189 | 74 | 67 | 33 | 54 | 3.55 |
14 | Russ Meyer | .750 | 94 | 1953 | 29 | BRO | NL | 34 | 32 | 15 | 5 | 0 | 191.1 | 201 | 109 | 97 | 63 | 106 | 4.56 |
15 | Russ Van Atta | .750 | 93 | 1933 | 27 | NYY | AL | 26 | 22 | 12 | 4 | 1 | 157.0 | 160 | 81 | 73 | 63 | 76 | 4.18 |
16 | Jim Lonborg | .733 | 98 | 1977 | 35 | PHI | NL | 25 | 25 | 11 | 4 | 0 | 157.2 | 157 | 77 | 72 | 50 | 76 | 4.11 |
17 | Santo Alcala | .733 | 75 | 1976 | 23 | CIN | NL | 30 | 21 | 11 | 4 | 0 | 132.0 | 131 | 72 | 69 | 67 | 67 | 4.70 |
18 | Bill Champion | .733 | 99 | 1974 | 26 | MIL | AL | 31 | 23 | 11 | 4 | 0 | 161.2 | 168 | 72 | 65 | 49 | 60 | 3.62 |
19 | Dutch Leonard | .733 | 95 | 1925 | 33 | DET | AL | 18 | 18 | 11 | 4 | 0 | 125.2 | 143 | 73 | 63 | 43 | 65 | 4.51 |
20 | Dwight Gooden | .731 | 98 | 1990 | 25 | NYM | NL | 34 | 34 | 19 | 7 | 0 | 232.2 | 229 | 106 | 99 | 70 | 223 | 3.83 |
December 13th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Career-wise, guys like Jack Coombs, Kirk Rueter and Lew Burdette top the list (depending what your minimum W-count is).
December 13th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Of course, most of these guys played for very good teams. Among the starters, the oddest is Bill Champion, of the 1974 Brewers. They were 76-86, so how Champion managed to go 11-4 is a mystery to me.
December 14th, 2009 at 10:50 am
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December 14th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
thanks for that...
but, I checked out Vukovich and he won the Cy Young the year after with a 105 strikeouts in 223 innings while giving up 234 hits, walking 102, and had a 1.502 whip, which brings up a lot of other questions, don't you think? the walk-strikeout ratio is pretty bad! I mean do you really want to bench a Cy Young winner on your fantasy team?