Matt Cain
Posted by Andy on September 25, 2007
A lot has been written about Matt Cain's unlucky season, but I just thought I'd add a few tidbits.
First, here are the worst winning percentages in a season for a pitcher with an ERA+ of 120 or better and at least 20 decisions:
Cnt Player **W-L%** ERA+ Dec Year Age Tm Lg G GS CG SHO GF W L SV IP H R ER BB SO ERA HR BF AB 2B 3B IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS Pk BK WP BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ Pit Str +----+-----------------+---------+----+---+----+---+---+--+---+--+--+---+--+--+--+--+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+--+----+----+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+ 1 Eddie Smith .190 120 21 1937 23 PHA AL 38 23 14 1 11 4 17 5 196.2 178 100 86 90 79 3.94 18 847 4 0 2 0 2 Ned Garvin .238 158 21 1904 30 TOT ML 25 24 16 2 1 5 16 0 193.2 155 85 37 80 94 1.72 6 782 6 1 9 0 3 Buster Brown .281 125 32 1910 28 BSN NL 46 29 16 1 11 9 23 2 263 251 113 78 94 88 2.67 4 1036 4 0 9 0 4 Matt Cain .304 120 23 2007 22 SFG NL 31 31 1 0 0 7 16 0 193 168 82 79 78 155 3.68 12 806 710 40 7 3 5 8 5 15 8 5 0 0 12 .237 .315 .363 .678 79 3238 2041 5 Brandon Webb .304 124 23 2004 25 ARI NL 35 35 1 0 0 7 16 0 208 194 111 83 119 164 3.59 17 933 783 31 5 11 11 14 6 24 31 10 3 1 17 .248 .353 .365 .718 88 3438 2030 6 Dummy Taylor .308 132 26 1902 27 TOT ML 30 29 22 1 1 8 18 0 234.2 231 115 57 63 95 2.19 4 150 17 0 7 0 7 Howard Ehmke .310 121 29 1925 31 BOS AL 34 31 22 0 3 9 20 1 260.2 285 141 108 85 95 3.73 8 1134 11 2 2 0 8 Jim Abbott .318 144 22 1992 24 CAL AL 29 29 7 0 0 7 15 0 211 208 73 65 68 130 2.77 12 874 790 28 2 3 4 8 4 22 14 13 1 0 2 .263 .323 .349 .672 88 9 Dennis Lamp .318 123 22 1978 25 CHC NL 37 36 6 3 0 7 15 0 223.2 221 96 82 56 73 3.30 16 928 854 36 3 8 4 10 3 20 28 9 1 2 2 .259 .306 .364 .670 84 10 Bill Piercy .320 120 25 1923 27 BOS AL 30 24 11 0 4 8 17 0 187.1 193 105 71 73 51 3.41 5 815 14 0 6 0 11 Nolan Ryan .333 142 24 1987 40 HOU NL 34 34 0 0 0 8 16 0 211.2 154 75 65 87 270 2.76 14 873 771 23 3 2 4 9 1 6 45 7 0 2 10 .200 .284 .292 .576 60 12 Turk Farrell .333 124 30 1962 28 HOU NL 43 29 11 2 9 10 20 4 241.2 210 91 81 55 203 3.02 21 981 902 33 8 2 5 12 6 17 25 7 1 0 9 .233 .279 .357 .636 81 13 Jack Warhop .345 126 29 1912 27 NYY AL 39 22 16 0 15 10 19 3 258 256 120 82 59 110 2.86 3 1039 16 0 2 0 14 Roger Erickson .350 135 20 1980 23 MIN AL 32 27 7 0 1 7 13 0 191.1 198 83 69 56 97 3.25 13 811 740 31 5 0 4 5 6 13 5 7 4 2 5 .268 .320 .376 .696 85 15 Moe Drabowsky .350 126 20 1963 27 KCA AL 26 22 9 2 1 7 13 0 174.1 135 62 59 64 109 3.05 16 707 630 14 5 2 8 3 2 13 11 4 1 0 6 .214 .294 .329 .623 77 16 Al Benton .350 136 20 1942 31 DET AL 35 30 9 1 4 7 13 2 226.2 210 87 73 84 110 2.90 9 954 0 0 5 0 17 Andy Coakley .357 129 28 1908 25 TOT NL 36 31 22 5 4 10 18 2 262.2 233 83 52 70 68 1.78 3 1026 4 0 1 0 18 Dolf Luque .361 120 36 1922 31 CIN NL 39 32 18 0 5 13 23 0 261 266 123 96 72 79 3.31 7 1093 1 2 4 0 19 John Hiller .364 121 22 1977 34 DET AL 45 8 3 0 27 8 14 7 124 120 59 49 61 115 3.56 15 539 465 15 1 8 1 7 5 11 6 9 0 0 6 .258 .342 .391 .733 95
There's Cain at #4. He and Brandon Webb have the worst seasons in the last 15 or so years, with the only other entrants from the last 30 years being Jim Abbott, Dennis Lamp, Nolan Ryan, Roger Erickson, and John Hiller.
Cain goes tonight for the Giants, in what is a very important game to his opponent (the Padres.) The Giants have a total of 5 games left, including an off-day, so this is probably Cain's last start of the season.
From Cain's 2007 splits page, here is his run support:
Avg. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9|Other game totals +----+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-------------------------+ 3.17 4 4 6 7 6 1 0 1 0 1| 15 runs
That's alarmingly low, with 14 games at 2 or fewer runs.
More specifically, in 2007 Cain has:
- One game with 7 IP and 0 runs that he got a no-decision
- Four games where he allowed 1 ER (and no unearned runs) and got the loss (pitched 6, 7, 7, and 8 innings)
- Eight games (including the one above with 0 runs) where he allowed 3 or fewer runs and got no-decisions, and NO OTHER no-decision games. (No games where he allowed 5 or 6 runs, got knocked out, and then the Giants rallied to win, for example.)
- Allowed 4 or fewer earned runs in 27 of 31 game starts. In those 27 starts, he's got a record of 7-14.
- He'd tied with a bunch of guys for the 10th most quality starts this season, and only Ian Snell, Gil Meche, and Bronson Arroyo also have losing records.
September 25th, 2007 at 8:32 am
Cain leads the NL in Wild Pitches, and is tied for 7th in Base on Balls Allowed. Some of those walks seem to be offset somewhat by being 6th in H/9inn.
Instead of ERA+, is it possible to see how Cain ranks with WHIP+?
September 25th, 2007 at 8:45 am
I'm not sure exactly what you want, but here are pitchers with a WHIP of 1.28 or less, minimum 20 decisions, ranked by lowest W/L%. Cain comes in tied for 36th, although the only pitchers ahead of him after 1975 are #32 Andy Benes in 1994, #26 Steve Rogers in 1976, #21 Jerry Koosman in 1977, and #20 Jose Bautisa in 1988.
Here is the list for pitchers with a W/L% under .350, minimum 20 decisions, ranked by lowest WHIP. Cain is 81st on the list.
September 25th, 2007 at 10:06 am
ERA+ is a individual's ERA as compared to his league's overall ERA that season. Can we do the same for WHIP? WHIP+ would be an individual's WHIP compared to his league's overall WHIP that season.
September 25th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Oh...not easily I don't think. ERA+ is calculated for each player but no standardized WHIP is provided.
Keep in mind, by the way, that ERA+ also takes account of the player's home ballpark. To me, that makes it an extremely valuable stat, even more valuable than just a standardized ERA.
September 25th, 2007 at 10:51 am
How can we help people understand that those adjusted stats are not "made up" and serve a great purpose?
September 25th, 2007 at 11:06 am
Well, anybody is free to read the stat glossary posted on the main website.
September 25th, 2007 at 11:16 am
No, I don't mean users here - I assume we can all agree that most stats are useful (maybe not RBI's though). I just mean people in general. If I mention ERA+ with certain friends, I'm mocked and then ignored.
September 25th, 2007 at 11:27 am
The most impressive guy on this list is Nolan Ryan, who was 40 years old and had a ERA+ of 142! He led the NL in ERA! He led to NL in Ks, and K:BB ratio. He was also 3rd in WHIP. He placed 5th in the Cy Young voting!
September 25th, 2007 at 11:27 am
If history tells us anything, about baseball statistics and otherwise, it's that you can't force them onto people. Interest in and use of such information has to grow organically. Look--15 years ago, almost nobody cared about OBP and almost nobody had heard of OPS (speaking of the general baseball fan population, certainly not sabermatricians.) Now, OBP is widely used, even during telecasts of most baseball games. When folks like Jayson Stark start mentioning ERA+ in their columns, it will begin to catch on.
Of course, ERA+ is sort of unusual. For any year, it carries less meaning, since all pitchers are subject to the same league-average ERA for that given year. (The park correction still carries significant value.) But the real value of ERA+ is being able to compare pitchers, to some reasonable degree, across 100+ years via the correction.
September 26th, 2007 at 7:25 am
Cain just had another good outing, only to see the bullpen cough it up in the ninth as they allowed 4 runs in the ninth. Ouch. Big win for the Padres.
September 26th, 2007 at 8:22 am
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