Matt Cain
Posted by Andy on December 2, 2009
For two years, Matt Cain has pitched in the shadow of teammate Tim Lincecum. It's a shame because he's done some extraordinary things in 2007-2009.
Check out all the pitchers since 1901 to have a season Age 24 or younger with at least 200 IP and an ERA+ of 150 or better:
Rk | Player | Year | IP | ERA+ | Age | Tm | GS | CG | SHO | W | L | H | ER | BB | SO | |
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1 | Jair Jurrjens | 2009 | 215.0 | 158 | 23 | ATL | 34 | 0 | 0 | 14 | 10 | 186 | 62 | 75 | 152 | 2.60 |
2 | Felix Hernandez | 2009 | 238.2 | 174 | 23 | SEA | 34 | 2 | 1 | 19 | 5 | 200 | 66 | 71 | 217 | 2.49 |
3 | Matt Cain | 2009 | 217.2 | 151 | 24 | SFG | 33 | 4 | 0 | 14 | 8 | 184 | 70 | 73 | 171 | 2.89 |
4 | Tim Lincecum | 2008 | 227.0 | 169 | 24 | SFG | 33 | 2 | 1 | 18 | 5 | 182 | 66 | 84 | 265 | 2.62 |
5 | Dontrelle Willis | 2005 | 236.1 | 151 | 23 | FLA | 34 | 7 | 5 | 22 | 10 | 213 | 69 | 55 | 170 | 2.63 |
6 | Carlos Zambrano | 2004 | 209.2 | 160 | 23 | CHC | 31 | 1 | 1 | 16 | 8 | 174 | 64 | 81 | 188 | 2.75 |
7 | Mark Prior | 2003 | 211.1 | 178 | 22 | CHC | 30 | 3 | 1 | 18 | 6 | 183 | 57 | 50 | 245 | 2.43 |
8 | Barry Zito | 2002 | 229.1 | 158 | 24 | OAK | 35 | 1 | 0 | 23 | 5 | 182 | 70 | 78 | 182 | 2.75 |
9 | Kevin Millwood | 1999 | 228.0 | 167 | 24 | ATL | 33 | 2 | 0 | 18 | 7 | 168 | 68 | 59 | 205 | 2.68 |
10 | Justin Thompson | 1997 | 223.1 | 151 | 24 | DET | 32 | 4 | 0 | 15 | 11 | 188 | 75 | 66 | 151 | 3.02 |
11 | Kevin Appier | 1992 | 208.1 | 165 | 24 | KCR | 30 | 3 | 0 | 15 | 8 | 167 | 57 | 68 | 150 | 2.46 |
12 | Mike Mussina | 1992 | 241.0 | 157 | 23 | BAL | 32 | 8 | 4 | 18 | 5 | 212 | 68 | 48 | 130 | 2.54 |
13 | Allan Anderson | 1988 | 202.1 | 166 | 24 | MIN | 30 | 3 | 1 | 16 | 9 | 199 | 55 | 37 | 83 | 2.45 |
14 | Roger Clemens | 1987 | 281.2 | 154 | 24 | BOS | 36 | 18 | 7 | 20 | 9 | 248 | 93 | 83 | 256 | 2.97 |
15 | Roger Clemens | 1986 | 254.0 | 169 | 23 | BOS | 33 | 10 | 1 | 24 | 4 | 179 | 70 | 67 | 238 | 2.48 |
16 | Dwight Gooden | 1985 | 276.2 | 228 | 20 | NYM | 35 | 16 | 8 | 24 | 4 | 198 | 47 | 69 | 268 | 1.53 |
17 | Dennis Eckersley | 1979 | 246.2 | 150 | 24 | BOS | 33 | 17 | 2 | 17 | 10 | 234 | 82 | 59 | 150 | 2.99 |
18 | Frank Tanana | 1977 | 241.1 | 154 | 23 | CAL | 31 | 20 | 7 | 15 | 9 | 201 | 68 | 61 | 205 | 2.54 |
19 | John Candelaria | 1977 | 230.2 | 169 | 23 | PIT | 33 | 6 | 1 | 20 | 5 | 197 | 60 | 50 | 133 | 2.34 |
20 | Mark Fidrych | 1976 | 250.1 | 158 | 21 | DET | 29 | 24 | 4 | 19 | 9 | 217 | 65 | 53 | 97 | 2.34 |
21 | Bert Blyleven | 1973 | 325.0 | 158 | 22 | MIN | 40 | 25 | 9 | 20 | 17 | 296 | 91 | 67 | 258 | 2.52 |
22 | Vida Blue | 1971 | 312.0 | 185 | 21 | OAK | 39 | 24 | 8 | 24 | 8 | 209 | 63 | 88 | 301 | 1.82 |
23 | Tom Seaver | 1969 | 273.1 | 165 | 24 | NYM | 35 | 18 | 5 | 25 | 7 | 202 | 67 | 82 | 208 | 2.21 |
24 | Steve Carlton | 1969 | 236.1 | 164 | 24 | STL | 31 | 12 | 2 | 17 | 11 | 185 | 57 | 93 | 210 | 2.17 |
25 | Larry Dierker | 1969 | 305.1 | 151 | 22 | HOU | 37 | 20 | 4 | 20 | 13 | 240 | 79 | 72 | 232 | 2.33 |
Rk | Player | Year | IP | ERA+ | Age | Tm | GS | CG | SHO | W | L | H | ER | BB | SO | |
26 | Denny McLain | 1968 | 336.0 | 154 | 24 | DET | 41 | 28 | 6 | 31 | 6 | 241 | 73 | 63 | 280 | 1.96 |
27 | Sam McDowell | 1965 | 273.0 | 161 | 22 | CLE | 35 | 14 | 3 | 17 | 11 | 178 | 66 | 132 | 325 | 2.18 |
28 | Dean Chance | 1964 | 278.1 | 198 | 23 | LAA | 35 | 15 | 11 | 20 | 9 | 194 | 51 | 86 | 207 | 1.65 |
29 | Dick Ellsworth | 1963 | 290.2 | 167 | 23 | CHC | 37 | 19 | 4 | 22 | 10 | 223 | 68 | 75 | 185 | 2.11 |
30 | Don Drysdale | 1957 | 221.0 | 154 | 20 | BRO | 29 | 9 | 4 | 17 | 9 | 197 | 66 | 61 | 148 | 2.69 |
31 | Herb Score | 1956 | 249.1 | 166 | 23 | CLE | 33 | 16 | 5 | 20 | 9 | 162 | 70 | 129 | 263 | 2.53 |
32 | Johnny Antonelli | 1954 | 258.2 | 177 | 24 | NYG | 37 | 18 | 6 | 21 | 7 | 209 | 66 | 94 | 152 | 2.30 |
33 | Ralph Branca | 1947 | 280.0 | 155 | 21 | BRO | 36 | 15 | 4 | 21 | 12 | 251 | 83 | 98 | 148 | 2.67 |
34 | Ewell Blackwell | 1947 | 273.0 | 166 | 24 | CIN | 33 | 23 | 6 | 22 | 8 | 227 | 75 | 95 | 193 | 2.47 |
35 | Hal Newhouser | 1945 | 313.1 | 195 | 24 | DET | 36 | 29 | 8 | 25 | 9 | 239 | 63 | 110 | 212 | 1.81 |
36 | Hal Newhouser | 1944 | 312.1 | 161 | 23 | DET | 34 | 25 | 6 | 29 | 9 | 264 | 77 | 102 | 187 | 2.22 |
37 | Johnny Beazley | 1942 | 215.1 | 162 | 24 | STL | 23 | 13 | 3 | 21 | 6 | 181 | 51 | 73 | 91 | 2.13 |
38 | Ernie White | 1941 | 210.0 | 157 | 24 | STL | 25 | 12 | 3 | 17 | 7 | 169 | 56 | 70 | 117 | 2.40 |
39 | Bob Feller | 1940 | 320.1 | 161 | 21 | CLE | 37 | 31 | 4 | 27 | 11 | 245 | 93 | 118 | 261 | 2.61 |
40 | Bob Feller | 1939 | 296.2 | 154 | 20 | CLE | 35 | 24 | 4 | 24 | 9 | 227 | 94 | 142 | 246 | 2.85 |
41 | Mel Harder | 1934 | 255.1 | 171 | 24 | CLE | 29 | 17 | 6 | 20 | 12 | 246 | 74 | 81 | 91 | 2.61 |
42 | Dizzy Dean | 1934 | 311.2 | 159 | 24 | STL | 33 | 24 | 7 | 30 | 7 | 288 | 92 | 75 | 195 | 2.66 |
43 | Mel Harder | 1933 | 253.0 | 152 | 23 | CLE | 31 | 14 | 2 | 15 | 17 | 254 | 83 | 67 | 81 | 2.95 |
44 | Lon Warneke | 1933 | 287.1 | 163 | 24 | CHC | 34 | 26 | 4 | 18 | 13 | 262 | 64 | 75 | 133 | 2.00 |
45 | Lon Warneke | 1932 | 277.0 | 159 | 23 | CHC | 32 | 25 | 4 | 22 | 6 | 247 | 73 | 64 | 106 | 2.37 |
46 | Babe Ruth | 1916 | 323.2 | 158 | 21 | BOS | 41 | 23 | 9 | 23 | 12 | 230 | 63 | 118 | 170 | 1.75 |
47 | Ernie Shore | 1915 | 247.0 | 170 | 24 | BOS | 32 | 17 | 4 | 19 | 8 | 207 | 45 | 66 | 102 | 1.64 |
48 | Bill James | 1914 | 332.1 | 150 | 22 | BSN | 37 | 30 | 4 | 26 | 7 | 261 | 70 | 118 | 156 | 1.90 |
49 | Dutch Leonard | 1914 | 224.2 | 279 | 22 | BOS | 25 | 17 | 7 | 19 | 5 | 139 | 24 | 60 | 176 | 0.96 |
50 | Bill Doak | 1914 | 256.0 | 162 | 23 | STL | 33 | 16 | 7 | 19 | 6 | 193 | 49 | 87 | 118 | 1.72 |
Rk | Player | Year | IP | ERA+ | Age | Tm | GS | CG | SHO | W | L | H | ER | BB | SO | |
51 | Willie Mitchell | 1913 | 217.0 | 158 | 23 | CLE | 22 | 14 | 4 | 14 | 8 | 153 | 46 | 88 | 141 | 1.91 |
52 | Reb Russell | 1913 | 316.2 | 154 | 24 | CHW | 36 | 26 | 8 | 22 | 16 | 250 | 67 | 79 | 122 | 1.90 |
53 | Joe Wood | 1912 | 344.0 | 178 | 22 | BOS | 38 | 35 | 10 | 34 | 5 | 267 | 73 | 82 | 258 | 1.91 |
54 | Walter Johnson | 1912 | 369.0 | 242 | 24 | WSH | 37 | 34 | 7 | 33 | 12 | 259 | 57 | 76 | 303 | 1.39 |
55 | Jeff Tesreau | 1912 | 243.0 | 173 | 24 | NYG | 28 | 19 | 3 | 17 | 7 | 177 | 53 | 106 | 119 | 1.96 |
56 | Walter Johnson | 1911 | 322.1 | 172 | 23 | WSH | 37 | 36 | 6 | 25 | 13 | 292 | 68 | 70 | 207 | 1.90 |
57 | Joe Wood | 1911 | 275.2 | 162 | 21 | BOS | 33 | 25 | 5 | 23 | 17 | 226 | 62 | 76 | 231 | 2.02 |
58 | King Cole | 1910 | 239.2 | 159 | 24 | CHC | 29 | 21 | 4 | 20 | 4 | 174 | 48 | 130 | 114 | 1.80 |
59 | Ray Collins | 1910 | 244.2 | 157 | 23 | BOS | 26 | 18 | 4 | 13 | 11 | 205 | 44 | 41 | 109 | 1.62 |
60 | Walter Johnson | 1910 | 370.0 | 183 | 22 | WSH | 42 | 38 | 8 | 25 | 17 | 262 | 56 | 76 | 313 | 1.36 |
61 | Harry Krause | 1909 | 213.0 | 172 | 20 | PHA | 21 | 16 | 7 | 18 | 8 | 151 | 33 | 49 | 139 | 1.39 |
62 | George McQuillan | 1908 | 359.2 | 157 | 23 | PHI | 42 | 32 | 7 | 23 | 17 | 263 | 61 | 91 | 114 | 1.53 |
63 | Ed Reulbach | 1906 | 218.0 | 159 | 23 | CHC | 24 | 20 | 6 | 19 | 4 | 129 | 40 | 92 | 94 | 1.65 |
64 | Christy Mathewson | 1905 | 338.2 | 230 | 24 | NYG | 37 | 32 | 8 | 31 | 9 | 252 | 48 | 64 | 206 | 1.28 |
65 | Ed Reulbach | 1905 | 291.2 | 209 | 22 | CHC | 29 | 28 | 5 | 18 | 14 | 208 | 46 | 73 | 152 | 1.42 |
66 | Earl Moore | 1903 | 247.2 | 163 | 23 | CLE | 27 | 27 | 3 | 19 | 9 | 196 | 48 | 62 | 148 | 1.74 |
67 | Noodles Hahn | 1902 | 321.0 | 170 | 23 | CIN | 36 | 35 | 6 | 23 | 12 | 282 | 63 | 58 | 142 | 1.77 |
Firstly, this list is bookended by Jair Jurrjens and Noodles Hahn. Interesting set of names there. Did you know that Hahn's real first name was Jair? Just kidding. It was Frank.
Anyway, Cain slides onto this list just ahead of his teammate Timmy, who turned the trick two seasons ago. The rest of this list is quite mixed including some of the very best pitchers of all time (such as Clemens, Seaver, Carlton, Drysdale, Feller, Johnson, Mathewson, and some guy named Ruth) as well as a number of pitchers who didn't have much success in later years (Willis so far, Prior, Zito to a large extent, Thompson, Anderson, Ellsworth, Antonelli, and numerous others.)
Incidentally, here are the guys from the list above with multiple such seasons:
Rk | Yrs | To | From | Age | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Walter Johnson | 3 | 1910 | 1912 | 22-24 | |
2 | Roger Clemens | 2 | 1986 | 1987 | 23-24 | |
3 | Hal Newhouser | 2 | 1944 | 1945 | 23-24 | |
4 | Bob Feller | 2 | 1939 | 1940 | 20-21 | |
5 | Mel Harder | 2 | 1933 | 1934 | 23-24 | |
6 | Lon Warneke | 2 | 1932 | 1933 | 23-24 | |
7 | Joe Wood | 2 | 1911 | 1912 | 21-22 | |
8 | Ed Reulbach | 2 | 1905 | 1906 | 22-23 |
There are a few guys, such as Jurrjens, with a chance to add another season by the age of 24.
Anyway, two years ago I wrote about Matt Cain's bizarre season in terms of how well he pitched with so few wins to show for it. Check out what I mean:
Since 1901, Cain is the only pitcher with 2 seasons of 200 IP, an ERA+ of at least 118, and a W-L% of .364 or less.
Rk | Yrs | To | From | Age | ||
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1 | Matt Cain | 2 | 2007 | 2008 | 22-23 | |
2 | Brandon Webb | 1 | 2004 | 2004 | 25-25 | |
3 | Jim Abbott | 1 | 1992 | 1992 | 24-24 | |
4 | Greg Swindell | 1 | 1991 | 1991 | 26-26 | |
5 | Nolan Ryan | 1 | 1987 | 1987 | 40-40 | |
6 | Dennis Lamp | 1 | 1978 | 1978 | 25-25 | |
7 | Turk Farrell | 1 | 1962 | 1962 | 28-28 | |
8 | Al Benton | 1 | 1942 | 1942 | 31-31 | |
9 | Howard Ehmke | 1 | 1925 | 1925 | 31-31 | |
10 | Dolf Luque | 1 | 1922 | 1922 | 31-31 | |
11 | Jack Warhop | 1 | 1912 | 1912 | 27-27 | |
12 | Buster Brown | 1 | 1910 | 1910 | 28-28 | |
13 | Andy Coakley | 1 | 1908 | 1908 | 25-25 | |
14 | Dummy Taylor | 1 | 1902 | 1902 | 27-27 |
Even relaxing the criteria to an ERA+ of 110 and a W-L% of .400 or less, Cain is still one of just 9 pitchers with multiple such seasons:
Rk | Yrs | To | From | Age | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Matt Cain | 2 | 2007 | 2008 | 22-23 | |
2 | Murry Dickson | 2 | 1950 | 1952 | 33-35 | |
3 | Milt Gaston | 2 | 1929 | 1930 | 33-34 | |
4 | Larry Benton | 2 | 1929 | 1931 | 31-33 | |
5 | Dolf Luque | 2 | 1922 | 1924 | 31-33 | |
6 | Lee Meadows | 2 | 1919 | 1922 | 24-27 | |
7 | Joe Bush | 2 | 1916 | 1917 | 23-24 | |
8 | Red Ames | 2 | 1914 | 1918 | 31-35 | |
9 | Jack Warhop | 2 | 1912 | 1914 | 27-29 |
Note that he's the only guy to be saddled with such bad luck in the last 50+ years.
As for 2009, Cain is one of 155 pitchers since 1901 to have a season with 200 IP, an ERA+ of at least 151, and a W-L% of .636 or better. There have been 239 such seasons and here are the 200 most recent. Incidentally, there have been another 90 seasons where the pitcher met the innings and ERA+ requirement but not on W-L%. So Cain had a little bit of luck this year, but mostly he just pitched extremely well.
December 2nd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Here are the 52 pitchers since 1901 who, over their 3rd to 5th seasons, totaled at least 635 innings and a 129 ERA+. If you're too lazy to click, the last 5 guys to do it are Webb, Zambrano, Hudson, Appier, and Clemens. Also been done by Blyleven, Seaver, Ford, Feller, Dean, Hubbell, Grove, Mays, Ruth, Alexander, Johnson, Walsh, Brown, Joss, and Mathewson.
Oh, and Matt Cain.
December 2nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Not an unknown in my house! My little brother rostered Cain in a fantasy league last year, and was pissed all year when all those strikeouts and 1-2 ER games never turned into wins. Fast forward to this past spring - I picked Cain up because I had heard my brother preach his great peripherals unlike most of my fellow managers. Cain won a lot more games this year, and I won the championship of my league. Happy ending for me, notsomuch for my brother, who finished 7th.
If Zito ever reverted back to his Cy Young days, can you imagine how scary good the Giants 1-2-3 would be? Then you throw Sanchez in there too, and man, the Giants really wouldn't need a whole lot more than Kung Fu Panda to get them by. Two solo shots a game oughta do it.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:39 pm
fyi: lincecum's missing from 2009 with an era+ of 176
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Nope, Timmy was 25 in 2009 so he doesn't qualify for that first list for this past season.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
I guess it is safe to say Walter Johnson was one of the greatest young pitchers...oh, and he was pretty good when he was old, too, anchoring a pair of pennant winners. Hard to argue he isn't the greatest of all time.