Inherited runners for closers
Posted by Andy on July 1, 2009
Let's check out inherited runner data for closers.
If you go to Mariano Rivera's detailed pitching page and head down about halfway, you can see his Inherited Runners (IR) and Inherited Runners Scoring (IS) stats under the "Reliever Pitching" heading.
In his career, Rivera has inherited 308 runners and allowed 90 (29%) to score. That's 308 runners in 881 games as a reliever (0.349 per game).
At first, I expected Trevor Hoffman to have many fewer inherited runners since he's been used exclusively in the 9th more than Rivera. But he's actually inherited about the same number--337 runners in 953 reliever games, or 0.353 per game. Hoffman allowed 68 (20%) to score.
Closers these days, though, inherit many fewer runners than they used to. Managers used to be much more willing to bring closers in during the 7th or 8th inning when the game was at a critical point. Among pitcher to register 30+ saves in a season, here are the highest totals for inherited runners:
Cnt Player **IR** SV Year Age Tm Lg G GS CG SHO GF W L W-L% IP H R ER BB SO ERA ERA+ HR BF AB 2B 3B IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS Pk BK WP BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ Pit Str +----+-----------------+-------+--+----+---+---+--+---+---+--+---+--+--+--+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+----+--+----+----+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+ 1 Dan Quisenberry 89 33 1980 27 KCR AL 75 0 0 0 68 12 7 .632 128.1 129 47 44 27 37 3.09 131 5 528 487 21 3 15 1 8 5 18 6 3 0 0 1 .265 .302 .351 .653 78 2 Mike Marshall 89 31 1973 30 MON NL 92 0 0 0 73 14 11 .560 179 163 62 53 75 124 2.66 143 10 746 648 18 4 12 4 15 5 15 8 2 2 0 8 .252 .331 .338 .669 87 3 Ron Perranoski 88 31 1969 33 MIN AL 75 0 0 0 52 9 10 .474 119.2 85 32 28 52 62 2.11 176 4 484 415 6 3 16 1 11 5 16 5 2 1 0 0 .205 .292 .263 .555 57 4 John Hiller 84 38 1973 30 DET AL 65 0 0 0 60 10 5 .667 125.1 89 21 20 39 124 1.44 285 7 498 449 13 1 7 0 6 4 5 3 2 0 0 1 .198 .260 .278 .538 48 5 Kent Tekulve 76 31 1979 32 PIT NL 94 0 0 0 67 10 8 .556 134.1 109 46 41 49 75 2.75 143 5 550 490 18 2 20 2 7 2 18 14 2 1 0 4 .222 .295 .298 .593 64 6 Mark Davis 75 44 1989 28 SDP NL 70 0 0 0 65 4 3 .571 92.2 66 21 19 31 92 1.85 192 6 370 330 9 2 1 2 3 4 12 1 1 0 0 8 .200 .270 .294 .564 65 7 Ron Davis 73 30 1983 27 MIN AL 66 0 0 0 61 5 8 .385 89 89 34 33 33 84 3.34 128 6 382 334 19 1 3 3 6 6 6 16 5 0 1 4 .266 .332 .383 .715 92 8 Dan Quisenberry 71 37 1985 32 KCR AL 84 0 0 0 76 8 9 .471 129 142 41 34 16 54 2.37 175 8 532 508 19 3 5 1 4 3 15 8 2 0 0 0 .280 .301 .376 .677 84 9 Bill Campbell 71 31 1977 28 BOS AL 69 0 0 0 60 13 9 .591 140 112 48 46 60 114 2.96 154 13 583 501 17 4 10 5 13 4 12 4 6 0 1 3 .224 .311 .351 .662 70 10 Ken Sanders 71 31 1971 29 MIL AL 83 0 0 0 77 7 12 .368 136.1 111 35 29 34 80 1.91 181 9 539 489 19 1 10 4 10 1 14 6 7 2 0 0 .227 .282 .325 .607 78 11 Bill Caudill 70 36 1984 27 OAK AL 68 0 0 0 62 9 7 .563 96.1 77 30 29 31 89 2.71 137 9 394 353 14 3 4 0 5 5 2 8 5 0 0 1 .218 .278 .351 .629 78 12 Kent Tekulve 69 31 1978 31 PIT NL 91 0 0 0 65 8 7 .533 135 115 44 35 55 77 2.33 160 5 573 505 17 2 18 2 7 4 14 12 3 0 0 5 .228 .304 .299 .603 71 13 Todd Worrell 66 33 1987 27 STL NL 75 0 0 0 54 8 6 .571 94.2 86 29 28 34 92 2.66 157 8 395 355 14 3 11 0 4 2 7 11 1 0 0 1 .242 .307 .366 .673 82 14 Jeff Russell 65 38 1989 27 TEX AL 71 0 0 0 66 6 4 .600 72.2 45 21 16 24 77 1.98 200 4 278 247 10 1 5 3 1 3 13 3 2 0 0 6 .182 .260 .279 .539 51 15 Todd Worrell 65 36 1986 26 STL NL 74 0 0 0 60 9 10 .474 103.2 86 29 24 41 73 2.08 177 9 430 375 17 1 16 1 7 6 6 9 5 0 0 1 .229 .303 .352 .655 85 16 Jack Aker 65 32 1966 25 KCA AL 66 0 0 0 57 8 4 .667 113 81 27 25 28 68 1.99 171 7 442 405 12 3 10 3 5 3 11 3 3 0 0 0 .200 .255 .296 .551 63 17 Mitch Williams 64 36 1989 24 CHC NL 76 0 0 0 61 4 4 .500 81.2 71 27 25 52 67 2.76 137 6 365 298 11 1 4 8 2 5 3 4 2 7 4 6 .238 .361 .342 .703 102 18 Ed Farmer 63 30 1980 30 CHW AL 64 0 0 0 55 7 9 .438 99.2 92 37 37 56 54 3.34 121 6 438 377 14 2 11 1 3 1 15 10 0 0 0 7 .244 .343 .340 .683 88 19 Bob Stanley 62 33 1983 28 BOS AL 64 0 0 0 53 8 10 .444 145.1 145 56 46 38 65 2.85 153 7 602 545 23 0 12 3 11 4 21 7 1 1 0 4 .266 .315 .347 .662 76 20 Mike Marshall 61 32 1979 36 MIN AL 90 1 0 0 84 10 15 .400 142.2 132 47 42 48 81 2.65 166 8 586 520 21 6 2 4 10 4 21 7 6 4 1 8 .254 .319 .363 .682 80 21 Ted Abernathy 59 31 1965 32 CHC NL 84 0 0 0 62 4 6 .400 136.1 113 49 39 56 104 2.57 143 7 572 498 14 0 13 5 8 5 14 9 6 0 0 6 .227 .309 .297 .606 73 22 Tom Henke 58 34 1987 29 TOR AL 72 0 0 0 62 0 6 .000 94 62 27 26 25 128 2.49 181 10 363 330 13 2 3 0 3 5 2 9 2 1 0 5 .188 .242 .330 .572 48 23 Dave Giusti 56 30 1971 31 PIT NL 58 0 0 0 49 5 6 .455 86 79 31 28 31 55 2.93 118 5 365 328 9 1 8 1 1 4 7 1 2 0 0 3 .241 .305 .320 .625 82 24 Bruce Sutter 55 37 1979 26 CHC NL 62 0 0 0 56 6 6 .500 101.1 67 29 25 32 110 2.22 187 3 403 361 8 2 5 0 6 4 5 8 2 0 0 9 .186 .249 .244 .493 34 25 Bob James 54 32 1985 26 CHW AL 69 0 0 0 60 8 7 .533 110 90 31 26 23 88 2.13 203 5 436 399 16 0 4 2 7 5 9 9 2 1 2 3 .226 .268 .303 .571 53
Note there isn't a single season here from the modern offensive explosion (1993-present) although a few guys sneak on there from 1989 (Mark Davis, Jeff Russell, and Mitch Williams.) If you check out the full list you'll see that the first post-1993 season is from Danny Graves in 2000.
Doing the same search but limiting it to 1993-2009, here are the leaders:
Cnt Player **IR** SV Year Age Tm Lg G GS CG SHO GF W L W-L% IP H R ER BB SO ERA ERA+ HR BF AB 2B 3B IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS Pk BK WP BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ Pit Str +----+-----------------+-------+--+----+---+---+--+---+---+--+---+--+--+--+-----+-----+---+---+---+---+---+------+----+--+----+----+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+----+----+ 1 Danny Graves 47 30 2000 26 CIN NL 66 0 0 0 57 10 5 .667 91.1 81 31 26 42 53 2.56 185 8 388 333 15 0 7 3 6 4 10 5 1 0 1 3 .243 .330 .360 .690 77 1418 830 2 Roberto Hernandez 46 31 1997 32 TOT ML 74 0 0 0 50 10 3 .769 80.2 67 24 22 38 82 2.45 174 7 340 298 4 1 5 1 2 1 7 10 3 1 0 3 .225 .314 .315 .629 70 3 Trevor Hoffman 44 37 1997 29 SDP NL 70 0 0 0 59 6 4 .600 81.1 59 25 24 24 111 2.66 147 9 322 295 9 3 4 0 2 1 2 4 5 1 0 7 .200 .259 .342 .601 66 4 J.J. Putz 40 36 2006 29 SEA AL 72 0 0 0 57 4 1 .800 78.1 59 20 20 13 104 2.30 193 4 303 285 8 1 1 2 1 2 5 7 0 0 0 1 .207 .245 .284 .529 39 1215 825 5 Danny Graves 40 32 2002 28 CIN NL 68 4 0 0 54 7 3 .700 98.2 99 37 35 25 58 3.19 135 7 412 375 13 2 9 3 3 6 8 1 3 1 0 5 .264 .311 .365 .676 79 1378 910 6 Billy Taylor 39 33 1998 36 OAK AL 70 0 0 0 58 4 9 .308 73 71 37 29 22 58 3.58 126 7 311 278 12 2 4 3 3 5 7 7 0 0 1 0 .255 .312 .388 .700 84 7 Roberto Hernandez 39 38 1993 28 CHW AL 70 0 0 0 67 3 4 .429 78.2 66 21 20 20 71 2.29 184 6 314 290 6 2 1 0 2 2 3 2 4 0 0 2 .228 .276 .324 .600 62 8 Tom Gordon 38 46 1998 30 BOS AL 73 0 0 0 69 7 4 .636 79.1 55 24 24 25 78 2.72 173 2 317 288 8 1 1 0 2 2 4 7 0 0 0 9 .191 .254 .247 .501 30 9 Danny Graves 37 32 2001 27 CIN NL 66 0 0 0 54 6 5 .545 80.1 83 41 37 18 49 4.15 110 7 337 310 19 2 6 4 3 2 10 4 1 0 1 2 .268 .314 .410 .724 87 1163 779 10 Ugueth Urbina 37 41 1999 25 MON NL 71 0 0 0 62 6 6 .500 75.2 59 35 31 36 100 3.69 121 6 323 284 9 0 6 0 1 2 3 20 1 0 0 6 .208 .295 .303 .598 58 11 Randy Myers 37 38 1995 32 CHC NL 57 0 0 0 47 1 2 .333 55.2 49 25 24 28 59 3.88 106 7 240 207 10 1 1 0 2 3 2 1 2 1 0 0 .237 .324 .396 .720 96 12 Mark Wohlers 36 39 1996 26 ATL NL 77 0 0 0 64 2 4 .333 77.1 71 30 26 21 100 3.03 145 8 323 296 8 2 3 2 2 2 4 12 1 0 0 10 .240 .293 .361 .654 72 13 Tom Henke 36 40 1993 35 TEX AL 66 0 0 0 60 5 5 .500 74.1 55 25 24 27 79 2.91 143 7 302 268 6 0 3 1 3 3 5 3 2 0 0 3 .205 .278 .306 .584 59 14 Mariano Rivera 35 40 2003 33 NYY AL 64 0 0 0 57 5 2 .714 70.2 61 15 13 10 63 1.66 265 3 277 260 6 1 1 4 1 2 8 3 2 1 0 0 .235 .272 .300 .572 53 998 689 15 Todd Jones 35 31 1997 29 DET AL 68 0 0 0 51 5 4 .556 70 60 29 24 35 70 3.09 148 3 301 260 8 0 2 1 1 4 5 6 1 0 0 7 .231 .320 .296 .616 64 16 Trevor Hoffman 35 42 1996 28 SDP NL 70 0 0 0 62 9 5 .643 88 50 23 22 31 111 2.25 178 6 348 311 10 1 5 2 2 2 2 4 2 1 0 2 .161 .240 .257 .497 38 17 Rod Beck 35 48 1993 24 SFG NL 76 0 0 0 71 3 1 .750 79.1 57 20 19 13 86 2.16 180 11 309 284 5 0 4 3 6 3 3 1 0 0 0 4 .201 .241 .335 .576 58 18 Byung-Hyun Kim 34 36 2002 23 ARI NL 72 0 0 0 66 8 3 .727 84 64 20 19 26 92 2.04 224 5 343 308 6 0 2 6 1 2 7 5 1 0 0 2 .208 .281 .276 .557 45 1348 884 19 Trevor Hoffman 34 43 2001 33 SDP NL 62 0 0 0 55 3 4 .429 60.1 48 25 23 21 63 3.43 117 10 248 222 6 0 2 1 2 2 5 2 0 0 0 3 .216 .285 .378 .663 81 917 604 20 Jeff Shaw 34 48 1998 31 TOT NL 73 0 0 0 69 3 8 .273 85 75 22 20 19 55 2.12 198 8 339 312 8 0 5 1 5 2 10 7 0 1 0 0 .240 .284 .343 .627 69 21 Rod Beck 34 33 1995 26 SFG NL 60 0 0 0 52 5 6 .455 58.2 60 31 29 21 42 4.45 91 7 255 225 5 1 3 2 4 3 2 3 1 0 0 2 .267 .331 .391 .722 98 22 Rod Beck 33 35 1996 27 SFG NL 63 0 0 0 58 0 9 .000 62 56 23 23 10 48 3.34 121 9 248 235 12 1 2 1 0 2 5 5 1 0 0 1 .238 .270 .413 .683 87 23 Roberto Hernandez 33 32 1995 30 CHW AL 60 0 0 0 57 3 7 .300 59.2 63 30 26 28 84 3.92 114 9 272 237 9 1 4 3 4 0 3 4 2 0 0 1 .266 .351 .426 .777 104 24 John Wetteland 33 43 1993 26 MON NL 70 0 0 0 58 9 3 .750 85.1 58 17 13 28 113 1.37 307 3 344 308 10 4 3 2 5 1 0 13 2 0 0 7 .188 .260 .276 .536 44 25 J.J. Putz 32 40 2007 30 SEA AL 68 0 0 0 65 6 1 .857 71.2 37 11 11 13 82 1.38 314 6 260 242 6 0 0 2 2 1 7 3 0 0 0 3 .153 .202 .252 .454 21 1033 674
Trevor Hoffman makes a few appearances, but all from the first half of his career (1996, 1997, 2001) after which he has rarely been used earlier than the 9th inning.
Here are the active leaders in inherited runners.
Cnt Player **IR** SV From To Ages G GS CG SHO GF W L W-L% IP H R ER BB SO ERA ERA+ HR BF IBB HBP BK WP Teams BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ SH SF 2B 3B GDP SB CS Pk +----+-----------------+--------+---+----+----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+---+-----+------+----+----+----+----+----+------+----+---+-----+---+---+---+---+-----------+-----+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+---+ 1 Alan Embree 582 25 1995 2009 25-39 873 0 0 0 217 38 43 .469 752.2 724 415 381 284 678 4.56 95 92 3227 35 19 3 23 CLE-ATL-TOT-SFG-BOS-TOT-SDP-OAK-COL .254 .321 .412 .733 100 31 39 141 18 56 89 23 10 2 Julian Tavarez 465 23 1993 2009 20-36 822 108 2 0 183 88 80 .524 1400.2 1529 799 690 558 839 4.43 101 113 6195 72 96 11 43 CLE-SFG-COL-CHC-FLA-PIT-STL-BOS-TOT-WSN .282 .356 .415 .771 106 67 48 334 26 192 71 31 4 3 Eddie Guardado 459 187 1993 2009 22-38 888 25 0 0 397 46 60 .434 928 881 468 446 341 789 4.33 107 134 3943 38 15 2 24 MIN-SEA-TOT-CIN-TEX .251 .317 .432 .749 98 44 38 198 17 48 49 20 8 4 Jamie Walker 439 12 1997 2009 25-37 545 2 0 0 127 19 21 .475 442 463 226 203 110 318 4.13 108 73 1903 21 18 2 15 KCR-DET-BAL .265 .313 .446 .759 105 13 17 78 9 21 29 9 4 5 Ron Villone 433 7 1995 2009 25-39 683 93 2 0 162 59 64 .480 1142 1082 649 598 622 904 4.71 96 131 5069 37 66 2 47 TOT-MIL-CLE-CIN-TOT-PIT-HOU-SEA-TOT-NYY-STL-WSN .252 .353 .405 .758 101 52 42 215 23 99 38 32 29 6 Arthur Rhodes 425 32 1993 2009 23-39 724 38 3 2 139 72 53 .576 942.2 805 445 427 414 954 4.08 111 103 3973 42 13 2 36 BAL-SEA-OAK-CLE-PHI-TOT-CIN .231 .312 .370 .682 84 29 26 147 16 71 58 23 10 7 Scott Eyre 424 4 1997 2009 25-37 600 32 0 0 105 27 30 .474 633.1 642 336 304 325 525 4.32 104 82 2815 27 15 0 39 CHW-TOR-TOT-SFG-CHC-TOT-PHI .265 .351 .427 .778 108 18 30 119 15 53 45 29 10 8 Ricardo Rincon 422 21 1997 2008 27-38 565 0 0 0 128 21 24 .467 443.2 384 200 177 201 400 3.59 125 41 1895 32 11 4 14 PIT-CLE-TOT-OAK-STL-NYM .233 .318 .362 .680 79 23 15 81 4 35 17 13 3 9 Chad Bradford 413 11 1998 2009 23-34 543 0 0 0 114 35 28 .556 506.2 508 210 183 135 308 3.25 138 27 2133 38 29 3 4 CHW-OAK-BOS-NYM-BAL-TOT-TBR .263 .318 .344 .662 76 21 13 69 4 64 28 13 2 10 Trever Miller 412 10 1996 2009 23-36 551 5 0 0 119 16 14 .533 442.2 451 234 214 205 376 4.35 102 48 1982 26 37 0 16 DET-HOU-TOT-TOR-TBD-TBR-STL .264 .353 .413 .766 111 18 14 91 10 30 17 15 4 11 Dave Weathers 407 75 1993 2009 23-39 909 69 0 0 293 68 83 .450 1322 1377 677 619 568 939 4.21 103 122 5816 73 53 6 41 FLA-TOT-MIL-NYM-CIN .272 .349 .407 .756 104 90 38 239 40 137 93 38 4 12 Ray King 407 2 1999 2008 25-34 593 0 0 0 97 20 23 .465 411 376 178 158 181 278 3.46 125 34 1747 17 17 1 16 CHC-MIL-ATL-STL-COL-TOT-WSN .248 .332 .377 .709 88 17 14 70 12 56 23 4 2 13 Brian Shouse 383 6 1993 2009 24-40 441 0 0 0 97 13 10 .565 337 333 154 137 114 225 3.66 128 28 1448 30 19 1 7 PIT-BOS-KCR-TEX-TOT-MIL-TBR .259 .326 .390 .716 93 18 11 77 4 35 14 8 3 14 Dennys Reyes 374 3 1997 2009 20-32 573 40 0 0 103 32 33 .492 666.2 671 359 317 365 602 4.28 104 59 2982 25 18 8 63 LAD-TOT-CIN-KCR-SDP-MIN-STL .265 .358 .398 .756 105 40 24 131 15 63 69 27 24 15 Russ Springer 351 8 1993 2009 24-40 683 27 1 0 154 35 42 .455 809.1 774 436 408 333 737 4.54 97 117 3510 32 33 0 39 CAL-TOT-PHI-HOU-ATL-ARI-STL-OAK .250 .327 .420 .747 105 23 25 147 14 38 82 16 1 16 J.C. Romero 342 4 1999 2009 23-33 558 22 0 0 102 32 28 .533 581.2 541 290 267 327 468 4.13 112 50 2569 38 32 5 34 MIN-LAA-TOT-PHI .249 .354 .378 .732 94 26 12 118 6 65 35 16 9 17 Trevor Hoffman 337 572 1993 2009 25-41 953 0 0 0 794 57 67 .460 1011.1 779 341 310 279 1074 2.76 146 90 4063 54 8 0 47 TOT-SDP-MIL .210 .264 .337 .601 68 28 29 151 27 55 47 13 2 18 Justin Speier 337 17 1998 2009 24-35 599 0 0 0 189 34 32 .515 664 592 314 298 228 578 4.04 116 104 2826 35 43 5 38 TOT-ATL-CLE-TOT-COL-TOR-LAA .237 .308 .417 .725 93 24 28 124 8 28 60 16 2 19 Damaso Marte 334 36 1999 2009 24-34 526 0 0 0 131 22 25 .468 478 389 196 182 215 514 3.43 132 46 2010 29 25 4 13 SEA-PIT-CHW-TOT-NYY .224 .316 .352 .668 79 18 17 73 5 38 35 10 7 20 Aaron Fultz 329 3 2000 2007 26-33 463 1 0 0 111 25 15 .625 479.2 467 243 227 187 394 4.26 105 50 2057 27 18 3 12 SFG-TEX-MIN-PHI-CLE .259 .331 .414 .745 94 24 27 104 12 40 13 9 1 21 Armando Benitez 323 289 1994 2008 21-35 762 0 0 0 527 40 47 .460 779 545 296 271 403 946 3.13 139 95 3253 32 16 5 18 BAL-NYM-TOT-FLA-SFG-TOT-TOR .195 .299 .338 .637 69 24 22 93 10 47 107 11 2 22 B.J. Ryan 321 117 1999 2009 23-33 559 0 0 0 249 21 27 .438 536 423 213 198 262 625 3.32 134 41 2269 27 17 2 21 TOT-BAL-TOR .216 .311 .316 .627 74 14 13 58 8 42 48 14 4 23 Matt Herges 317 34 1999 2009 29-39 557 4 0 0 192 42 35 .545 680.2 723 331 297 254 464 3.93 110 64 2978 44 32 2 16 LAD-MON-TOT-SFG-FLA-COL-CLE .275 .343 .418 .761 110 39 27 144 19 71 25 23 2 24 Doug Brocail 310 9 1993 2009 26-42 610 39 0 0 169 52 48 .520 854 852 420 375 300 622 3.95 111 81 3675 34 35 7 33 SDP-HOU-DET-TEX-SDP .261 .326 .396 .722 93 38 33 154 23 70 53 23 2 25 Mariano Rivera 308 500 1995 2009 25-39 881 10 0 0 740 69 51 .575 1054.1 828 292 270 247 973 2.30 197 58 4218 31 37 3 11 NYY .213 .265 .294 .559 50 24 22 113 13 71 53 19 4
It's pretty unusual for closers to inherit runners these days. Unless Rivera starts getting used differently, I think he'll pass Hoffman in inherited runners pretty soon. I'm not sure how far back the Inherited Runners stat goes, but it's not that far. I don't think we can find data here for older players like Gossage or Fingers.
Hey, who the heck is #13 Brian Shouse? It says he's been active since 1993 and I couldn't believe I hadn't heard of him. Turns out he was out of the big leagues for 4 years TWICE early in his career. Whoa.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:41 am
You've never heard of Brian Shouse?
He has some crazy stats, if you dig into his career.
Just last year, he got 2 wins by only pitching 1 pitch.
July 1st, 2009 at 11:49 am
There is inherited runner data for as far back as we have play-by-play records, to '54.
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I could have sworn Shouse was the sidewinding lefty who Texas brought in to face Paul O'Neill in a couple big spots in the '98 postseason, giving up hits both times. But Shouse wasn't on Texas back then. Turns out I was thinking of Mike Venafro. It was actually the '99 series. And O'Neill only got a hit the second time; in game 1 he reached on an error (but a run did score).
My memory surrounds the truth....
July 2nd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I think you're thinking of Shuey, perhaps.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 am
No, after checking the game logs, I'm almost certain it was Venafro. Definitely remembered a lefty specialist coming in to neutralize O'Neill, and failing. Shuey was righty. It's just odd because I can remember seeing Shouse pitch in the past few years and thinking to myself how he failed against O'Neill, when it wasn't even him. I wonder when I turned Venafro into Shouse in my mind.
July 3rd, 2009 at 8:06 am
No, I'm pretty sure you were thinking of Shuey.
(heh)
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:37 pm
One time when a closer may inherit runners is when the team is ahead by a large margin in the ninth, but the opposing team starts to catch up. The team then may bring in the closer, and quite likely there are runners on base (unless, of course, the most recent blow was a homer).