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CG With 14+ Ks And Getting The Loss

Posted by Steve Lombardi on August 17, 2011

Since 1919, how many pitchers have thrown a complete game, whiffing 14 or more, and got the loss in the contest?

Here is the list -

Rk Player Date Tm Opp Rslt App,Dec IP H R ER BB SO HR Pit Str GSc IR IS BF AB 2B 3B IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS PO BK WP ERA WPA RE24 aLI
1 Roy Halladay 2011-08-16 PHI ARI L 2-3 CG 9 ,L 9.0 8 3 3 1 14 0 122 89 72     36 35 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 1 0 3.00 -0.243 1.217 1.478
2 Pedro Martinez 2000-05-06 BOS TBD L 0-1 CG 9 ,L 9.0 6 1 1 1 17 0 130 91 87     34 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1.00 0.388 4.600 1.057
3 Shane Reynolds 1999-08-15 HOU PIT L 0-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 5 2 2 0 14 2 104 77 83     31 31 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 2.00 0.216 2.994 .950
4 Pedro Martinez 1999-07-07 BOS TBD L 2-3 CG 8 ,L 8.0 7 3 3 2 14 0 130 88 68     34 31 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 3.38 0.009 1.721 1.143
5 Randy Johnson 1999-06-30 ARI CIN L 0-2 CG 8 ,L 8.0 7 2 2 0 17 1 134 96 77     30 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 2.25 0.201 2.571 .706
6 Randy Johnson 1999-06-25 ARI STL L 0-1 CG 9 ,L 9.0 5 1 1 2 14 0 123 84 85     32 29 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.00 0.299 4.044 1.555
7 Randy Johnson 1997-06-24 SEA OAK L 1-4 CG 9 ,L 9.0 11 4 4 0 19 2 142 100 68     37 37 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4.00 -0.021 0.893 .674
8 Randy Johnson 1993-06-24 SEA OAK L 2-3 CG 9 ,L 9.0 4 3 2 8 14 0 158 87 75     39 28 1 0 0 0 1 2 0 3 0 0 0 1 2.00 -0.069 1.802 1.777
9 Terry Mulholland 1993-06-04 PHI COL L 1-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 7 2 2 0 14 0 122 88 79     33 33 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2.00 0.138 2.469 1.381
10 Sid Fernandez 1989-07-14 NYM ATL L 2-3 CG 9 ,L 8.0 6 3 3 0 16 1 121 91 74     30 29 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.38 -0.118 1.570 1.100
11 Bob Sebra 1987-07-01 MON CHC L 0-1 CG 9 ,L 9.0 3 1 1 1 14 1     90     31 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.00 0.266 3.682 1.051
12 Floyd Youmans 1986-09-27 MON PHI L 0-1 CG 9 ,L 9.0 2 1 1 7 15 0     87     34 27 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.00 0.299 3.167 .884
13 Bert Blyleven 1986-09-24 MIN KCR L 1-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 9 2 2 0 14 1     75     36 36 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 2.00 0.092 2.742 1.426
14 Mark Langston 1986-09-17 SEA CHW L 0-3 CG 9 ,L 9.0 9 3 3 1 14 1     70     35 33 3 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 3.00 0.078 1.651 .859
15 Mike Scott 1986-09-14 HOU SDP L 2-3 CG 9 ,L 8.1 8 3 3 0 14 1     69     34 34 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 3.24 -0.337 2.603 1.737
16 Bruce Hurst 1986-05-16 BOS TEX L 1-4 CG 9 ,L 9.0 8 4 3 0 14 3     71     35 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 3.00 -0.055 0.702 .669
17 Dwight Gooden 1984-09-17 NYM PHI L 1-2 CG 8 ,L 8.0 7 2 1 0 16 0     78     30 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 1 2 1 1.12 -0.022 1.695 1.472
18 Steve Carlton 1981-09-16 (2) PHI NYM L 4-5 CG 8 ,L 8.0 8 5 5 4 15 1     57     35 31 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5.62 -0.497 -1.615 1.548
19 Nolan Ryan 1977-06-16 CAL MIN L 6-7 CG 9 ,L 8.2 9 7 7 4 14 1     48     38 34 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 7.27 -0.564 -1.928 1.248
20 Dennis Eckersley 1976-08-13 CLE TEX L 1-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 6 2 1 5 14 0     78     39 32 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1.00 0.000 1.907 1.626
21 Tom Seaver 1974-10-01 NYM PHI L 1-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 4 2 2 2 14 0     83     32 28 1 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2.00 0.157 2.107 .794
22 Nolan Ryan 1974-08-20 CAL DET L 0-1 CG 11 ,L 11.0 4 1 1 5 19 0     99     41 36 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 0.82 0.432 3.715 1.377
23 Don Wilson 1974-05-12 (2) HOU CIN L 2-4 CG 8 ,L 8.0 9 4 4 3 14 1     59     36 31 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 4.50 -0.007 -0.350 .802
24 Nolan Ryan 1972-09-12 CAL TEX L 0-3 CG 9 ,L 9.0 6 3 2 3 15 0     77     35 31 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 4 2 0 0 2 2.00 -0.140 0.269 .574
25 Bob Gibson 1972-08-30 STL SFG L 2-3 CG 9 ,L 9.0 6 3 3 2 14 0     75     35 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.00 -0.093 0.848 1.253
26 Mickey Lolich 1971-07-31 DET CAL L 2-3 CG 12 ,L 12.0 9 3 3 0 14 0     86     45 45 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.25 0.287 2.436 1.474
27 Sam McDowell 1971-06-23 CLE BOS L 1-2 CG 8 ,L 8.0 5 2 2 5 14 1     73     34 29 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.25 0.031 1.731 1.089
28 Fergie Jenkins 1970-06-27 CHC PIT L 1-2 CG 9 ,L 8.0 7 2 2 0 14 0     74     31 30 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2.25 -0.021 1.914 1.298
29 Sam McDowell 1970-05-06 CLE CHW L 1-2 CG 9 ,L 8.1 5 2 1 2 15 1     80     30 28 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1.08 -0.072 2.971 1.322
30 Steve Carlton 1969-09-15 STL NYM L 3-4 CG 9 ,L 9.0 9 4 4 2 19 2     70     38 36 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 4.00 -0.299 0.077 1.139
31 Bob Gibson 1968-08-24 STL PIT L 4-6 CG 9 ,L 9.0 6 6 3 2 15 1     70     37 33 2 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.00 -0.535 -2.610 1.138
32 Sam McDowell 1968-07-06 CLE CAL L 0-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 3 2 0 2 14 0     89     32 28 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.021 1.390 1.129
33 Sam McDowell 1968-06-13 CLE OAK L 0-1 CG 11 ,L 11.0 5 1 1 6 14 0     91     43 36 1 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0.82 0.357 3.144 1.486
34 Steve Carlton 1967-09-20 STL PHI L 1-3 CG 8 ,L 8.0 8 3 3 3 16 0     67     35 31 2 0 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 0 1 3.38 -0.078 0.446 1.073
35 Bob Gibson 1966-05-06 STL SFG L 2-4 CG 9 ,L 9.0 3 4 3 2 14 1     79     33 31 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.00 -0.103 0.097 .634
36 Jim Maloney 1965-06-14 CIN NYM L 0-1 CG 11 ,L 11.0 2 1 1 1 18 1     106     35 34 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 0.82 0.497 4.266 1.153
37 Camilo Pascual 1964-10-01 MIN KCA L 4-5 CG 12 ,L 12.0 12 5 1 3 14 1     77     52 49 2 1 0 0 0 0 2 1 1 0 0 0 0.75 -0.034 0.476 1.497
38 Bob Veale 1964-09-22 PIT MLN L 0-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 7 2 2 2 15 0     78     35 33 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2.00 0.072 2.036 .610
39 Pedro Ramos 1963-08-23 CLE BOS L 2-3 CG 13 ,L 13.0 5 3 3 2 14 3     97     44 42 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 2.08 0.357 2.889 1.288
40 Paul Foytack 1956-07-28 DET WSH L 5-6 CG 9 ,L 9.0 7 6 5 6 15 2     60     39 33 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 5.00 -0.347 -1.248 1.063
41 Bob Turley 1954-04-21 BAL CLE L 1-2 CG 9 ,L 9.0 2 2 2 4 14 1     85     34 28 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2.00 -0.128 1.877 1.559
42 Warren Spahn 1952-06-14 BSN CHC L 1-3 CG 15 ,L 15.0 10 3 3 2 18 1     101     57 53 4 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.80 0.546 3.795 1.842
43 Bob Feller 1938-10-02 (1) CLE DET L 1-4   9.0 7 4 4 7 18 0     68     42 33 2 0   1 1           0 0 4.00      
44 Van Mungo 1936-09-07 (2) BRO BSN L 1-4   8.0 8 4 4 4 14 0     60     35 30 0 0   0 1           0 1 4.50      
45 Carl Hubbell 1932-05-26 NYG BRO L 2-3   12.0 9 3 3 2 15 2     85     47 44 1 0   0 1           0 0 2.25      
46 Pete Alexander 1919-08-02 (1) CHC PHI L 1-2   14.0 9 2 2 2 15 0     99     54 52 3 1   0 0           0 0 1.29      
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29 Responses to “CG With 14+ Ks And Getting The Loss”

  1. mick Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Lesson: if you want to win a ballgame in the last week of June, DON'T pitch Randy Johnson! 8-P

  2. Anon Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    The 2 1999 Johnson games were the 1st and 2nd in a series of 3 Johnson starts where the DBacks got 0, 1 & 2 hits and were held scoreless in all 3. The next game after the 2 above (7/5/99) just misses the criteria for this list as he took the loss after going 8 (CG) and giving up 1 run but "only" struck out 12.

    For the 3 games his line was 0-3,1.44 ERA , 43 K, 6 BB

    For good measure his next start after THAT (7/10/99) was 7IP, 2R (1ER), 11K, 4BB and he took the loss there as well. . . . .that is 4 consecutive games where he struck out at least 11 and took the loss. Wonder if that's ever been done before?

  3. Anon Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Well, answered my own question: assuming I used the PI correctly, Johnson is the only pitcher to ever strike out 10 in 4 consecutive games and take the loss in each.

  4. jason Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    and that wasn't even in the 14-12 hard luck season everyone talks about with johnson!

  5. jason Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    sorry it was actually 16-14

  6. Gary W Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Jim Maloney's game back in 1965 was interesting. He pitched ten no-hit innings and gave up two hits in the eleventh, including Johnny Lewis' home run. Possibly the best game he ever pitched.

  7. Anon Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    @5, Jason - "sorry it was actually 16-14"

    Ugh, 2004. I'm a DBacks fan and all I can say is that Johnson absolutely got shafted out of a Cy Young by his teammates that year. He was still amazing that year but finished the year pitching with a AAA team behind him and probably not even a good AAA team at that. Juan Brito was his catcher to finish the year. Very few of the prospects that played the 2nd half of that year ever played again and most only played a little more. That was a truly awful team.

  8. zack Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    6/24/97

    I remember that game!

    Mark McGwire hit a 500+ foot home run off Randy Johnson. It may have been the longest of his career.

  9. Cheese Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Poor Sam McDowell...zero earned runs. Ouch!

  10. Jonathan Frankel Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    From the "pre- BR" era, there are a few more I have id'ed (1897-1909, 1910/12 - AL only):

    Tom Hughes, CHN, 7/31/1901, CHN @ CIN, 15 k's, score: 0-6, 15 inn [Hahn k'ed 11 as well]

    Rube Waddell, PHA, 8/19/1904, CLE @ PHA, 15 k's, score: 1-2

    Rube Waddell, PHA, 9/6/1904, game 1, PHA @ NYA, 14 k's, score: 2-5

    Rube Waddell, PHA, 9/5/1905, PHA @ BOSA, 17 k's, score 2-3, 13 innings

    Joe Harris, BOSA, 9/1/1906, PHA @ BOSA, 15 k's, score 1-4, 24 innings [Coombs w/ 19 in a cg win] [Harris went 2-21 that season]

    Jeff Pfiester, CHN, 5/30/1906, game 1, SLN @ CHN 17 k's, score: 2-4, 15 innings [CHN lost both games of a doubleheader in the season that they only lost 36 all season!]

    Ed Walsh, CHA, 10/2/1908, CHA@ CLE, 15 k's, score: 0-1 [Joss pitched a Perfect Game opposite him w/ ONLY 3 k's]

    Jack Coombs, PHA, 8/4/1910, PHA@CHA, 16 k's, score: 0-0, 16 innings [Ed Walsh w/ 10 k's]

    Earl Hamilton, SLA, 9/19/1912, WAS@SLA, 14 k's, score: 2-4 [Tom Hughes 8 k's]

    A couple of comments:
    Needless to say pitchers finished their game more often in this era and finished their extra inning games more often as well. These are still nice accomplishments regardless.

    Rube Waddell made this list 3 times out of the many 14+ K games. Haven't check how many entries he would have if you lowered the bar to 10 k's.

    The inclusion of the tie (not a loss) was done just because the game was remarkable, especially for the era.

    Additionally, the Walsh/Joss 1908 game is legendary - one of the top game match-ups of all-time (pardon the hyperbole).

  11. Dukeofflatbush Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Not entirely on track, so sorry for breaking any momentum in the thread, but Boston had 3 hits in both games of a double header. amazingly they got a split. But does anyone know if that is a record.
    They also got just three hits the game before the double dip. This after mashing 23 hits in the two previous games.
    That's the great thing about this sport, you never know what you'll get.

  12. nightfly Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Game scores of 106, 101, and two 99s. That is some impressive dealing. And I believe that Maloney had already no-hit the Mets in 1964 (or was that Jim Bunning?), so for them to scrape the win after ten futile innings must have been particularly pleasant - or frustrating, if you're Jim Maloney.

  13. Kahuna Tuna Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Duke, according to the Play Index, most consecutive games with exactly three hits is four, by the 2003 Tigers in their second through fifth games of the season. ("Could be a long year . . .")

  14. Thomas Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    This post is obviously anti-Phillies, Halladay, Mulholland, & Carlton!! Shesh...

    I kid, I kid..

  15. Genis Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    One thing that caught my eye was Randy Johnson's 100 strikes in the 1997 game against Oakland. I was wondering how rare that is in the last 20 years?

  16. Christopher Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    @14 It is more anti-Cleveland! Seven times that Cleveland pitchers have been in such a spot, with poor Sam McDowell doing it four times for them.

  17. DavidJ Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    Wow, happened four times over a two-week span in 1986.

  18. Jeremy Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Boston also had 3 hits in today's (Wednesday) game...

  19. Thomas Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    @15.

    I'm seeing 10 games since 1992 with a pitcher throwing 100 (or more) strikes.

    6 by Randy Johnson (with his high being 111 strikes in a 160 pitch game in 1992)
    2 by Roger Clemens
    1 by Livan Hernandez
    1 by Tim Wakefield

    Wakefield's game is mind boggling. 8 innings pitched, 158 pitches, 0 k's, 16 hits allowed, 3 walks. Wow!

  20. Thomas Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Also, it's the most pitches in the PI without striking a guy out. The next highest is Bill Wegman throwing 134 in 1992.

  21. Dave V. Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    @11 & @13 - and the Red Sox got held to 3 hits again by the Rays, for the third straight game (though I'm showing they had 6 hits in their 4th-to-last game). So they have a chance to tie the record tomorrow.

  22. Doug Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    @2, Johnson's 1999 games.

    And a week after Johnson's 2 heart-breakers, the same fate befell Pedro.

    46 times since 1919, including:
    - three times in a 13-day period for Johnson and Martinez (1999)
    - four times in a 14-day period for Scott, Blyleven, Langston, Youmans (1986)

    Weird.

  23. TheGoof Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    How did Nolan Ryan only do this three times?

  24. Dukeofflatbush Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    On all the Randy Johnson talk and him getting the short end of 4 straight games, at least we can say that it begun the precedent of BEST pitcher not most WINS dictating Cy Young votes.
    Not that mike Hampton was a slouch that season. He was 22-4, but backed by Biggio, Bagwell, Alou and others.
    So Greinke, Felix, the Freak and others can thank Randy for their Cys

  25. Raphy Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    @11,18...
    Boston had 6 hits in the game before the double header, so after today, their streak is now 3 games.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/tgl.cgi?t=b&team=BOS&year=2011

  26. mccombe35 Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Terry Mulholland? That is shocking!

  27. John Autin Says:
    August 17th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Pardon my CG tangent ... The Rays got a CG in both ends of their doubleheader against the BoSox. I was lamenting that the P-I has no efficient way of finding such events, but at last I found an online citation:

    The last time a team had 2 CGs on the same day was 8/13/93, Milwaukee sweeping a doubleheader from Detroit. Rookie Angel Miranda won the opener with his 2nd straight CG win (he would get only 1 more CG in his brief career). Ricky Bones took the nightcap, also his 2nd straight CG. The Brewers led the AL with 26 CGs that year. Miranda and Bones both allowed 1 run on 6 hits; they threw 79 and 78 strikes, respectively.

    Yes, it was a Friday the 13th.
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL199308131.shtml

  28. Joe Garrison Says:
    August 18th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    In the Nolan Ryan 19 strikeout game, Mickely Lolich threw an eleven inning shutout....

    Did the bullpens miss the team bus from the hotel??

  29. Hire Jim Essian - Friday Roundup: The “Fantasy Football” Edition Says:
    August 26th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    [...] Poor Randy Johnson. [...]

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