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Most Seasons With 150+ Games & .390+ OBA

Posted by Steve Lombardi on April 7, 2011

Who are the leaders, since 1901, for the most seasons with 150+ games played in a season with an On-Base Average of .390 or better?

Here's the list -

Rk   Yrs From To Age  
1 Lou Gehrig 12 1926 1938 23-35 Ind. Seasons
2 Bobby Abreu 10 1998 2009 24-35 Ind. Seasons
3 Stan Musial 9 1943 1955 22-34 Ind. Seasons
4 Mel Ott 9 1929 1942 20-33 Ind. Seasons
5 Albert Pujols 8 2001 2010 21-30 Ind. Seasons
6 Todd Helton 8 1999 2009 25-35 Ind. Seasons
7 Charlie Gehringer 8 1928 1938 25-35 Ind. Seasons
8 Eddie Collins 8 1909 1924 22-37 Ind. Seasons
9 Chipper Jones 7 1996 2003 24-31 Ind. Seasons
10 John Olerud 7 1993 2002 24-33 Ind. Seasons
11 Barry Bonds 7 1990 2001 25-36 Ind. Seasons
12 Tris Speaker 7 1912 1926 24-38 Ind. Seasons
13 Alex Rodriguez 6 2001 2007 25-31 Ind. Seasons
14 Lance Berkman 6 2001 2008 25-32 Ind. Seasons
15 Jeff Bagwell 6 1996 2002 28-34 Ind. Seasons
16 Ken Singleton 6 1973 1983 26-36 Ind. Seasons
17 Willie Mays 6 1954 1965 23-34 Ind. Seasons
18 Richie Ashburn 6 1951 1960 24-33 Ind. Seasons
19 Ralph Kiner 6 1947 1953 24-30 Ind. Seasons
20 Paul Waner 6 1927 1937 24-34 Ind. Seasons
21 Babe Ruth 6 1921 1928 26-33 Ind. Seasons
22 Jason Giambi 5 1999 2003 28-32 Ind. Seasons
23 Manny Ramirez 5 1996 2008 24-36 Ind. Seasons
24 Roberto Alomar 5 1992 2001 24-33 Ind. Seasons
25 Frank Thomas 5 1991 2003 23-35 Ind. Seasons
26 Wade Boggs 5 1983 1989 25-31 Ind. Seasons
27 Keith Hernandez 5 1979 1984 25-30 Ind. Seasons
28 Pete Rose 5 1969 1979 28-38 Ind. Seasons
29 Carl Yastrzemski 5 1963 1973 23-33 Ind. Seasons
30 Harmon Killebrew 5 1961 1970 25-34 Ind. Seasons
31 Eddie Yost 5 1950 1956 23-29 Ind. Seasons
32 Luke Appling 5 1935 1943 28-36 Ind. Seasons
33 Jimmie Foxx 5 1930 1937 22-29 Ind. Seasons
34 Earl Averill 5 1929 1936 27-34 Ind. Seasons
35 Joe Sewell 5 1921 1928 22-29 Ind. Seasons
36 Lu Blue 5 1921 1931 24-34 Ind. Seasons
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Generated 4/6/2011.

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20 Responses to “Most Seasons With 150+ Games & .390+ OBA”

  1. Gerry Says:

    Of course, Babe Ruth only had 6 seasons with 150+ games played - they only played 154 a season back then - and his worst OBA in those 6 seasons was .463, well clear of the qualifying line. But I guess part of the point of this list is stamina. Ted Williams only had 4 seasons of 150+ games - but an OBA of .490 or better in each of those 4 seasons. Hornsby only had 4 seasons of 150+.

  2. Taco Says:

    Off topic, but the Giants hit for the cycle today in their first four at bats of the game (3B, 2B, HR, 1B). Would be a great post idea.

  3. dukeofflatbush Says:

    At first glance I thought choosing .390 as your cutoff seemed arbitrary or cherry picked to get someone one the list to prove a point, but when i saw Keith Hernandez on the list I totally understand .390.
    We get so caught up in Baseball's "magic" #s, (.300, 100, 30 etc) we forget that the difference of a .295 hitter and a .301 hitter is so insignificant.
    Keith, to me, deserves to be in the Hall. And if it weren't for our fascination with abstract cutoff #s designating what a good season is, I think Keith would of got a much longer look.
    He hit > .290 < than .300 4 times, with one .289 season in there. So given a few hits, he would of had 10 or 11 .300 seasons. He also had five 90 + RBI seasons, also with one 89. Also in a low scoring environment. Given a few extra century RBI seasons would of cast him in a much different light to voters.

  4. Rich Says:

    It does seem like maybe you should have done one list as 150+ during the 162 game era, and maybe, I don't know, 142+ for the 154 game era. That said, I think this list helps prove Richie Ashburn might be one of the more underrated Hall-of-Famers as some don't even think he deserves to be in there.
    He had ZERO power, but clearly it seems that he knew this and made up for it by not only being a high average contact hitter but one with an incredible eye.

  5. kenh Says:

    @1 Don't forget that Williams, Dimaggio and maybe a few others missed a few seasons due to service in the military. I think Williams might have missed at least 4 years of his prime.

  6. Andy Patton Says:

    Love seeing a list with OBP machine John Olerud on there! He's not hall worthy, but i think deserved a little more credit than he got last year..

  7. Dcarson10 Says:

    Has there been an Abreu Hall of Fame debate? He's a fantastic hitter (as this list shows) but he seems like one of those guys who won't have enough support.

    And @6, I love seeing Olerud's name too. While I'm hesitant to call him a hall of famer, I was upset with how support he actually got as well. There's no reason he gets under 1% of the vote while someone like Dave Parker gets close to 20 and Jack Morris is bordering on the fence of actually getting in.

  8. Jeff Says:

    Its interesting seeing Ken Singleton's name. I knew he was a good OBP guy, but the 150+ for 6 seasons is interesting.

  9. Dave Says:

    @#7, I was just going to post the same question when I saw your post. I think it's a tough call, you don't think of him as a "elite" hitter, even in his prime. He's numbers were never gaudy, "just" 20 homers, 100 RBI, 20 SBs, .300/.400/.500 every year. Without checking I doubt he was ever considered the best hitter on any team he played for, not sure.

  10. Dave Says:

    I'll support my own theory I posited in #9...in the early 2000's with Philly, they also had Rolen and Burrell who could be considered as good or more of a threat than Abreu, then Thome came along, and then Howard, Utley, et al showed up...so, yes, I don't think Abreu could be considered the best hitter on any team he played for...no HoF for you!

  11. Chris Says:

    After seeing this list, I had to look up Rickey Henderson's career stats, and I would never have guessed he had only two such seasons.

  12. StephenH Says:

    Nice list, but I would like to see this list presented as a percentage of league games played in a given year. It would be a way to include the 154 game seasons, the strike shortened seasons and any other shortened seasons such as 1918 and 1919.

  13. Artie Z Says:

    If you switch it to 600 PAs and a .390 OBP, you get this list:

    13 times
    Lou Gehrig

    12 times
    Barry Bonds
    Stan Musial
    Eddie Collins

    11 times
    Mel Ott
    Paul Waner

    10 times
    Albert Pujols
    Todd Helton
    Jimmie Foxx
    Charlie Gehringer
    Tris Speaker

    9 times
    Bobby Abreu
    Mickey Mantle
    Ted Williams
    Babe Ruth
    Ty Cobb

    8 times
    Jim Thome
    Alex Rodriguez
    Chipper Jones
    Frank Thomas
    Edgar Martinez
    Wade Boggs
    Rickey Henderson
    Rod Carew
    Luke Appling
    Joe Cronin
    Rogers Hornsby

    Abreu loses a year in which he had 151 games and "only" 589 PAs. Still, he's there with Mantle, Ruth, Williams, and Cobb ... though Abreu's high of .446 would have been Cobb's 6th best season, Williams' 7th, Ruth's worst season, and Mantle's 4th best season.

    To me Luke Appling is the one who stands out on this list - never realized his career OBP was just shy of .400. Was wondering why his OPS+ was so low and then realized his SLG was lower than his OBP.

  14. Rich Says:

    @ 10
    Abreu was first in WAR on the Phillies in 99, 00, 02, and 03
    In 1998, he was second only to Rolen, in 01, he was 2nd to Rolen again but first in oWAR. In 04, he was second only to Rollins 4.9 to 4.8 but he had by far the best oWAR 6.4 to 3.8 and in 05 he was second only to Utley.

  15. dukeofflatbush Says:

    @ 11

    Despite Rickey playing over 3000 games, he only played 150 or over 4 times.
    You could argue that taking as much time off as Rickey did is what gave him his longevity (a lead leading 66 SB and 118 BBs @ age 39, & .315/.423 BA&OB @ 40) but he did average only 123 games a season, which does include two strikes ('81 & '94) and the '95 short season. But he missed nearly 1000 of his teams games.
    Conservatively, if he played only half of those games at his 162 game average, he might of reached base 6,000 times, scored 2700 runs, had 350 HRs playing mostly in the 80's, and add another 250 SBs to his already ridiculous 1400.
    Pretty impressive.

  16. Johnny Twisto Says:

    he did average only 123 games a season, which does include two strikes ('81 & '94) and the '95 short season.

    It also includes his rookie year and seasons at the end when he was not intended to be a fulltime player (and wasn't even signed for the entire season).

  17. Doug B Says:

    it's all in how you phrase the parameters.

    change it to 140+G and .425 or better OBP and Frank Thomas jumps from 4 to 7 seasons while Abreu tumbles from 10 to 2 seasons.

  18. dukeofflatbush Says:

    @16 JT
    Yeah, but my point is, Rickey missed more games than your average super star. He also still put up great #'s later in his career, which made me wonder if missing games gave him his longevity.
    So subtract his first and last season & the two strike years, and that's 21 years with only 4 150 game seasons. Since the 162 game format, how many other guys, in his caliber, have 21 seasons with so few games?
    A near contemporary, Eddie Murray, averaged 144 games a season, 20 more a year.

  19. Most Seasons with 150+ Gms & .390+ OBP » Stathead » Blog Archive Says:

    [...] Lombardi of B-R lists the players w/ the most seasons of 150+ GP & and OBP of .390 or better. Link Posted on Thursday, April 7th, 2011 at 5:12 pm, Category: Baseball, Tags: bref, history, obp, [...]

  20. John Autin Says:

    @12, StephenH -- Yeah, it would be nice to have the data presented as you described. Unfortunately, as wonderful and powerful as the Play Index is, it won't do that -- and the amount of manual work necessary to convert the simple search results into a percentage basis is something that few people would bother to do unless the subject felt really important.

    Bottom line, everyone here knows that the 150-game threshold will skew the results towards those who played a 162-game schedule. Still, that schedule has been in force for 46 of the last 50 years now, so that's a pretty big pool of players on a level playing field.

    And the fact that 6 of the top 12 on the list played entirely in the 154-game schedule says that much more about them.