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Keeping Score: An Ace, and Some Hope, Return for Red Sox – Bats Blog – NYTimes.com

Posted by Steve Lombardi on August 5, 2010

Keeping Score: An Ace, and Some Hope, Return for Red Sox.

Now I know exactly how Bob Nieman felt on October 8, 1962!

Or, as I said on my Facebook page: A Yankees fan writing about the Boston Red Sox? OMG, it's like when Relationship George and Independent George...well, you know...worlds collide!

21 Responses to “Keeping Score: An Ace, and Some Hope, Return for Red Sox – Bats Blog – NYTimes.com”

  1. ImAShark6 Says:

    This doesn't have anything to do with this blog, but I am going to post in here since I almost never receive a reply when I e-mail the staff here. I was going through Jason Giambi's 2008 gamelogs, and I noticed that the June 27th doubleheader's second game was listed before the first game. This is probably due to the fact that the games were played at different stadiums, so it is not an official doubleheader. The order is still wrong though, and I think that it would due the website good to correct this, and also to start replying to my helpful e-mails.

  2. Jim Says:

    Hmm, I hate to say it buy he's right. It piqued my curiosity just enough to look it up. It appears that the yanks and mets played 2 games on that day but according to the gamelogs, they switched parks after the first game. No way

  3. WanderingWinder Says:

    I remember that happening. I can't assure you that the date is correct, but Jim, yes, it did happen.

  4. ImAShark6 Says:

    They did switch parks that day, but it lists the second game played as the first game, and the first game played as the second game. And it shows the players missing a game after each game, although it does show the correct team game number (meaning it shows a player playing in the following team games: 77, 78, 80, 79, 81, 82). The 79 and 80 should be switched. I assume this happened for 2000 and 2003 doubleheaders of the same variety.

  5. Jim Says:

    WW, yup it appears youre right. I forgot all about that. Regardless, shark is right: the games are listed out of order. Its not a huge deal I suppose but it is wrong.

  6. Steve Lombardi Says:

    FYI, I have passed this info along to the men behind the curtain. 😉

  7. Tmckelv Says:

    Here is the "reason" for the 2 stadiums in one day. "Reason" is is in quotes because the events actually seem unreasonble - when looking at the Game Logs.

    Friday May 16th - Mets @ Yanks game is rained out and for some reason they do not make it up that weekend (they played games on Sat and Sun) - maybe it was raining on and off and couldn't make it up sat or sun?)

    Friday June 27th - Yanks are scheduled to play 3 games this weekend @ Mets, but it is decided that they will use this weekend to make up the game rained out on May 16th - and for some reason choose a 2 stadium day night duble header on Friday.

    The whole thing sounds strange, and I don't actually remember which game was played first (@ Yanks or @ Mets), I think we need to get the actual recap from an old newspaper/website.

  8. Tmckelv Says:

    OK so the Yanks @ Mets game was the second game that day.

    Adding to the ridiculousness of the entire subject: Here is the ESPN article for game 2 - it has perhaps the craziest headline ever written - and also shows that the Yanks threw a shutout in a game that included Sidney Ponson, Kyle Farnsworth AND Kei Igawa (that trio should surprise Yankee fans)...

    http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280627321

  9. Stu Baron Says:

    The connection/significance of Bob Nieman is not clear. Please explain...

  10. Tmckelv Says:

    Is Steve equating...

    1) A chance at writing for the NY Times and having to write a Red Sox article

    with...

    2) A player (namely Bob Nieman) getting a chance to bat in the World Series and being Intentionally Walked

    ???

  11. Steve Lombardi Says:

    LOL - No, just that it was a chance to play in the big game via a PH opportunity. (Sean, Neil and Andy are at SABR this week.) That date/game was Nieman's one and only appearance in a post-season game, and it was via a PH opportunity.

  12. Stu Baron Says:

    I'm a big Mets fan, and for part of the 1996 season, I covered the Yankees for a small, now-defunct newspaper. After about the first 20 minutes, I gave that no further thought - I was too busy working...

  13. Steve Lombardi Says:

    Funny how that works out sometimes.
    I know that Bryan Hoch, who covers the Yankees for mlb.com, is a huge Mets fan.

  14. ImAShark6 Says:

    Let's get back to the topic of why that doubleheader is out of order on the players' gameslogs and why the staff never replies to my e-mails.

  15. BSK Says:

    ImAShark6-

    I can think of at least 6 reasons...

  16. ImAShark6 Says:

    Name the 6 reasons in alphabetical, chronological, and date order.

  17. BSK Says:

    Doesn't the "6" in your Handle have to do with how many previous monikers have been banned?

  18. ImAShark6 Says:

    Only 5 of my accounts have been banned, the 6th one is still going strong.

  19. ImAShark6 Says:

    Here are some of my completely gnarly suggestions for the PI:

    1. The ability to view which team had the most of something through the PI Event Finder (for example, if you search homeruns with the bases loaded, it will show you which opponent surrendered the most, but not which team hit the most).

    2. The ability to search leaders for certain stretches on the PI Player Game Finder and Team Game Finder (for example, most homeruns in games 28-54 of the season).

    3. The ability to search splits in the PI.

    4. The addition of "In team's first ___ games" for the PI Team Batting Game Finder.

  20. Jack Horan Says:

    Steve,
    You had better be careful with the Bob Nieman comparison. After all, that pinch hit IBB was his last appearance as a major league player!

  21. Naveed Says:

    Ah, yes, the fall of '62...

    There's an image of Hiller watching his home run leave Yankee Stadium that is indelibly etched in my mind when I think of Game 4, although I don't remember the book in which it was published.