8+ IP 0 CG
Posted by Raphy on June 22, 2010
Andy's post earlier this evening made reference to the fact that Doug Fister has pitched at least 8 innings in 4 of his starts this seasons. However, as you can see in Andy's chart, Fister has yet to throw a complete game. Which begs the question of which pitcher has the most starts of 8 or more innings without a complete game in a season. (I understand that this is a bookkeeping question. Pitchers can be credited with a complete game in an 8 inning loss or not credited in a long extra-inning appearance.)
From what I can tell, the PI tool best equipped to answer this question is surprisingly the Player Pitching Streak Finder. I'm going to limit our search only back until 1952 because there seem to be no CG records in the game finders for the '30s. Change the starting year to 1952. Select starter, set CG=0 and select "To Start Season". Click "Choose additional, advanced criteria" and set IP>=8. This finds the longest streaks from the beginning of the season, in which the starter did not throw a complete game, only considering games of at least 8 IP. This search produces the following list.
Rk | Strk Start | End | Games | W | L | GS | CG | SHO | GF | SV | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | HR | HBP | WP | BK | Tm | ||
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1 | Mike Mussina | 2003-04-09 | 2003-08-12 | 9 | 7 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 72.0 | 39 | 11 | 10 | 13 | 70 | 3 | 1.25 | 0 | 1 | 0 | NYY |
2 | Jose Rijo | 1993-04-05 | 1993-09-20 | 9 | 6 | 1 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 72.0 | 58 | 17 | 14 | 11 | 56 | 3 | 1.75 | 0 | 0 | 0 | CIN |
3 | Adam Wainwright | 2009-05-16 | 2009-09-26 | 8 | 6 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 66.0 | 48 | 8 | 7 | 13 | 61 | 2 | 0.95 | 0 | 1 | 0 | STL |
4 | Tim Hudson | 2003-04-01 | 2003-07-01 | 8 | 4 | 0 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 64.0 | 41 | 9 | 9 | 10 | 35 | 2 | 1.27 | 1 | 0 | 0 | OAK |
5 | Melido Perez | 1993-04-24 | 1993-07-08 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 65.0 | 44 | 19 | 19 | 23 | 53 | 6 | 2.63 | 0 | 1 | 0 | NYY |
6 | Ken Hill | 1991-05-13 | 1991-09-22 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 64.1 | 26 | 10 | 9 | 17 | 41 | 2 | 1.26 | 2 | 1 | 1 | STL |
7 | David Wells | 1990-07-06 | 1990-09-21 | 8 | 4 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 64.2 | 44 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 26 | 3 | 0.97 | 0 | 2 | 1 | TOR |
8 | Steve Carlton | 1984-04-20 | 1984-07-22 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 65.0 | 46 | 14 | 13 | 21 | 51 | 1 | 1.80 | 0 | 4 | 2 | PHI |
9 | Rodrigo Lopez | 2005-04-10 | 2005-08-10 | 7 | 6 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.2 | 38 | 11 | 9 | 10 | 37 | 4 | 1.43 | 2 | 0 | 0 | BAL |
10 | Chris Carpenter | 2004-05-09 | 2004-08-05 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.1 | 43 | 12 | 12 | 10 | 40 | 5 | 1.92 | 2 | 1 | 0 | STL |
11 | Woody Williams | 2003-05-05 | 2003-07-11 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.0 | 40 | 17 | 15 | 10 | 39 | 5 | 2.41 | 2 | 0 | 0 | STL |
12 | Shawn Estes | 1999-06-25 | 1999-09-03 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.1 | 45 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 43 | 5 | 1.92 | 1 | 4 | 0 | SFG |
13 | Jamie Moyer | 1999-05-16 | 1999-07-31 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.0 | 50 | 14 | 14 | 5 | 39 | 6 | 2.25 | 2 | 0 | 0 | SEA |
14 | Bobby Jones | 1998-04-24 | 1998-09-16 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 57.0 | 31 | 10 | 10 | 15 | 36 | 5 | 1.58 | 1 | 1 | 0 | NYM |
15 | Chan Ho Park | 1998-05-29 | 1998-08-26 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.2 | 32 | 10 | 9 | 13 | 44 | 4 | 1.43 | 3 | 2 | 1 | LAD |
16 | Tim Belcher | 1998-05-09 | 1998-08-21 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.0 | 55 | 21 | 20 | 5 | 35 | 8 | 3.21 | 1 | 0 | 0 | KCR |
17 | Bill Swift | 1993-05-11 | 1993-08-10 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.1 | 27 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 39 | 4 | 1.28 | 1 | 1 | 0 | SFG |
18 | Trevor Wilson | 1991-05-17 | 1991-09-03 | 7 | 4 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.0 | 37 | 7 | 5 | 14 | 33 | 0 | 0.80 | 0 | 1 | 0 | SFG |
19 | Charles Hudson | 1984-04-28 | 1984-09-29 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.0 | 38 | 16 | 14 | 13 | 27 | 5 | 2.25 | 1 | 0 | 0 | PHI |
20 | Bob Shirley | 1977-04-10 | 1977-09-27 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 57.2 | 43 | 21 | 9 | 15 | 43 | 6 | 1.40 | 1 | 2 | 2 | SDP |
Many of these pitchers did ultimately pitch a complete game during that season. Therefore, we need to check their gamelogs (or seasonal stats) for CGs. This can be easily done by clicking on the number of games in the streak (or on the player name.) We can also eliminate Adam Wainwright and Charles Hudson who pitched rain-shortened complete games during their streaks. Eliminating these players leaves us with this list of pitchers (1952-2010) who are the leaders in most starts of at least 8 innings in a season without a CG.
Rk | Strk Start | End | Games | W | L | GS | CG | SHO | GF | SV | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | HR | HBP | WP | BK | Tm | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Melido Perez | 1993-04-24 | 1993-07-08 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 65.0 | 44 | 19 | 19 | 23 | 53 | 6 | 2.63 | 0 | 1 | 0 | NYY |
1 | Ken Hill | 1991-05-13 | 1991-09-22 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 64.1 | 26 | 10 | 9 | 17 | 41 | 2 | 1.26 | 2 | 1 | 1 | STL |
1 | David Wells | 1990-07-06 | 1990-09-21 | 8 | 4 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 64.2 | 44 | 7 | 7 | 9 | 26 | 3 | 0.97 | 0 | 2 | 1 | TOR |
4 | Rodrigo Lopez | 2005-04-10 | 2005-08-10 | 7 | 6 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.2 | 38 | 11 | 9 | 10 | 37 | 4 | 1.43 | 2 | 0 | 0 | BAL |
4 | Woody Williams | 2003-05-05 | 2003-07-11 | 7 | 4 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 56.0 | 40 | 17 | 15 | 10 | 39 | 5 | 2.41 | 2 | 0 | 0 | STL |
4 | Bobby Jones | 1998-04-24 | 1998-09-16 | 7 | 5 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 57.0 | 31 | 10 | 10 | 15 | 36 | 5 | 1.58 | 1 | 1 | 0 | NYM |
June 23rd, 2010 at 8:29 am
Mariano Rivera.
June 23rd, 2010 at 8:30 am
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June 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Mussina, or any Yankee for that matter, didn't need to pitch 9 innings. Mariano Rivera.
I'll bet these 8IP starters were backed up by a good closers. All the leaders are from the Closer Era.