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Consecutive complete games

Posted by Andy on April 17, 2008

The Royals recently threw 2 consecutive complete games, one by Brian Bannister and one by Zack Greinke.

That makes them the 4th team to accomplish the feat since the beginning of the 2007 season:

 Team    StreakStart  Streak End Games   W   L   CG SHO  SV   IP     H    R   ER   BB   SO   HR   ERA  HBP  WP  BK Opponents
+-------+-----------+-----------+-----+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 KCR      2008-04-13  2008-04-14     2    2   0   2   0   0   18      8    2    1    2    7   0   0.50   1   0   0 MIN,SEA
 CHW      2007-09-19  2007-09-20     2    1   1   2   1   0   17     11    3    3    1   10   0   1.59   2   0   0 KCR
 PIT      2007-08-12  2007-08-13     2    2   0   2   1   0   18      8    1    1    1    8   0   0.50   0   0   0 SFG
 LAA      2007-07-30  2007-07-31     2    1   1   2   1   0   17     15    2    2    4   12   0   1.06   0   0   0 SEA

Going back to 1997, there are 4 teams who have had 3 CGs in a row:

 Team    StreakStart  Streak End Games   W   L   CG SHO  SV   IP     H    R   ER   BB   SO   HR   ERA  HBP  WP  BK Opponents
+-------+-----------+-----------+-----+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 MIN      2004-07-05  2004-07-07     3    3   0   3   3   0   27     13    0    0    2   24   0   0.00   3   0   0 KCR
 OAK      2000-09-08  2000-09-10     3    2   1   3   2   0   27     12    4    2    0   16   1   0.67   0   0   0 TBD
 MIN      1999-07-30  1999-08-01     3    2   1   3   1   0   26     17    3    3    4   17   1   1.04   0   1   0 ANA
 ATL      1998-06-14  1998-06-17     3    3   0   3   1   0   27     12    3    1    2   22   1   0.33   0   1   0 MON,FLA

And here are the leaders since 1956:

 Team    StreakStart  Streak End Games   W   L   CG SHO  SV   IP     H    R   ER   BB   SO   HR   ERA  HBP  WP  BK Opponents
+-------+-----------+-----------+-----+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 DET      1968-09-06  1968-09-19    12   10   2  12   3   0  108     81   20   20   18   98  11   1.67   0   1   0 MIN,CAL,OAK,NYY                              

 OAK      1980-08-09  1980-08-17     9    6   3   9   0   0   86.1   63   20   17   12   43   9   1.77   1   0   0 SEA,MIN                                      

 CHW      1956-09-16  1956-09-23     8    5   3   8   0   0   75     55   22   18   12   34   4   2.16   0   1   1 WSH,NYY,KCA

I would bet that if we could go all the way back to 1901, there were lots of times when teams when 20, 30, or more games in a row with CGs, since there were periods back then when use of relief pitchers was very rare. It's ironic the type of reversal we've seen. Back in the very early 1900s, it was probably a significant pain in the butt for the manager if he had to bring in a relief pitcher.

These days, most teams have a relief pitcher who is accustomed to throwing every 2 days, or 2 out of every 3, etc, and having a few complete games in a row could potentially mess up such players. Of course, that problem is easy to fix--you can always have a relief guy throw a bullpen session to keep his arm fresh.

13 Responses to “Consecutive complete games”

  1. Raphy Says:

    Wow. Last year the Royals had only 2 complete games all season.

  2. Raphy Says:

    The last Royals team to accomplish this: that pitching powerhouse the 2000 Royals.

  3. mattbucher Says:

    Well, if you count the playoffs, the White Sox threw four consecutive CG in 2005.

  4. fabio Says:

    The Royals have already pitched two more CG this year than the 2007 Marlins, Rangers and Nationals combined!

  5. Andy Says:

    Did you notice the team records in these streaks? How about the 1956 CWS who went just 5-3 in 8 straight CGs.

  6. Raphy Says:

    I just ran the WP% of CG's by decade. Before seeing the numbers, I would have assumed that more recent teams would have had a better record for two reasons. 1) A pitcher has to be pitching really well to be left in and 2) Double complete games which has to have a loser, are rare these days.

    In fact the opposite is true. The only reason that I can think of is that years ago a pitcher would have to be pitching really poorly to get yanked.

    Here are the league wide records for teams who's pitcher pitched a complete game of at least 8 innings or more.

    2000-2008 1087-338 (.763)
    1990-1999 2400-757 (.760)
    1980-1989 4821-1461 (.767)
    1970-1979 7807-2121 (.786)
    1960-1979 6833-1112 (.860)
    1956-1959 2402-502 (.827)

  7. Johnny Twisto Says:

    "The only reason that I can think of is that years ago a pitcher would have to be pitching really poorly to get yanked."

    But by the '50s, I'm not sure that's really true. There were a lot more CGs than now, but a lot less than there had been 50 years prior. The results surprise me too though. The only thing I can think of is that the 8-inning CG loss is probably becoming a much bigger %. Pitchers are much less likely to last 9 than 8. If he's winning, a closer will handle the 9th.

  8. Andy Says:

    Yeah, Johnny's got it. If you could go back to 1900, I suspect the W% for CGs is more like 55%, since so many games were double-CGs back then. By comparison, all rates 1950-present are "high.", and the introduction of the closer is probably the primary difference. Like I said in the original post, because of how bullpens are used now, there is actually some pressure for a manager to use a reliever even when not truly needed, so it screws up the logic of when we'd see a CG.

  9. gerry Says:

    The record for most complete games in a season is 148, by the 1904 Red Sox (or whatever they were calling themselves back then). What their longest streak was, I don't know.

  10. David in Toledo Says:

    I just ran some data for 1956 and 2006.

    In 1956, 1232 games were played (2464 chances for a CG), 16 teams, 154-game season. In 1458 of those (59%), a team used no more than 2 pitchers; in 482 (20%), it used 4 or more pitchers.

    In 2006, with 30 teams playing 162 games, there were 4860 chances for a CG. In only 669 (15%) did a team use 1 or 2 pitchers; in 2863 (59%), it used 4 or more.

    In 1956, 10 pitchers was enough, and the 15 position players included guys who were almost good enough to start. A manager could rest his regulars and get decent production from his bench.

    Now a roster carries 13 pitchers and, too often, 1 healthy catcher. Jose Reyes has to play every inning at shortstop, even when his play in September shows him clearly out of gas, because the Mets have only one infield reserve. (High salaries for regulars also dictate that reserves are low-budget versatile fielders who mostly can't hit.)

    It would be an interesting list -- all the multiple factors that have led to this very different use of pitchers, 1950's to now.

  11. KalamazooDouglass Says:

    In response to David in Toledo,

    This is really becomes a problem in the American League with the DH. Looking at the Red Sox right now, they only decent bench players they have would be Ellsbury (or Crisp, depending on how you look at the centerfield position in Boston). The rest of the players on that Boston bench have no major league experience before this year.

    Youkilis was obviously worn out by September last year, and I wouldn't be surprised if they fall apart in the last months of the season.

  12. whiz Says:

    Regarding the roster size and the fact that there are fewer position players on the roster:

    I am a firm believer that the DH should be abolished, but some opposed to this since it would eliminate certain players from making the roster (there are other reasons, too, of course). It has been proposed that to alleviate this concern, the roster could be increased to 26 or 27 players. This would help increase the number of position players AND perhaps reduce opposition to eliminating the DH. Does anybody know if this has been seriously considered at the winter meetings as a possibility?

  13. Johnny Twisto Says:

    I'm sure it's just a matter of time before managers complain they are hamstrung by their 15-man pitching staffs and need bigger rosters.