Hitting 4 HRs but losing a postseason finale
Posted by John Autin on October 15, 2011
If they had known their team would out-homer the Rangers by 13-7 in the ALCS, many Tigers fans would have bet the house on going to the World Series.
Instead, the Tigers became the first team ever to hit 4 HRs while losing a postseason finale.
Heck, they're just the 5th team to lose any postseason game when they hit at least 4 HRs:
Rk | Date | Series | Gm# | Tm | Opp | Rslt | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | ROE | GDP | SB | CS | WPA | RE24 | LOB | # | |
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1 | 2009-10-19 | ALCS | 3 | NYY | LAA | L 4-5 | 47 | 40 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 1 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | -0.367 | -1.908 | 1.390 | 10 | 15 |
2 | 2008-10-11 | ALCS | 2 | BOS | TBR | L 8-9 | 54 | 44 | 8 | 12 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 7 | 10 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0.035 | 2.069 | 1.641 | 13 | 11 |
3 | 2004-10-13 | NLCS | 1 | HOU | STL | L 7-10 | 38 | 37 | 7 | 10 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.090 | 2.328 | .566 | 4 | 15 |
4 | 2002-10-20 | WS | 2 | SFG | ANA | L 10-11 | 41 | 38 | 10 | 12 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0.252 | 5.106 | 1.223 | 4 | 9 |
Congratulations, Texas Rangers, on your second straight AL pennant.
It's going to be an interesting World Series either way, but especially if the Cardinals get there. That matchup could give us the first WS with more innings logged by relievers than by starters.
- Texas SPs pitched 28.2 innings in this ALCS, their relievers 27.1 IP.
- St. Louis SPs have gone 22.1 IP in the NLCS, their relievers 21.2 IP.
What are the odds of seeing a CG in that Series?
October 16th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Texas isn't afraid to let its top three go the distance if they pitch well enough, but I doubt Albert and company would let such a thing occur.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:21 am
I'm rooting for a Rangers-Brewers series. Two teams that have never won - one will have to break their streak! 🙂
October 16th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Talk about two teams that don't know each other.... The Cardinals and Rangers have played just one regular season series...... EVER, and that was at Texas in 2004.
Have any other two teams played each other only once in the 15 years of interleague play?
October 16th, 2011 at 9:30 am
I like to think I gave the baseball gods reason to give us this game. 🙂
http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/15791
October 16th, 2011 at 10:31 am
The Rangers are the second "new" team to win two straight league pennants (after the Blue Jays). Two of the "old" teams--the White Sox and the Indians--have never done it.
Rangers-Brewers--hardly likely at this moment--would be the first ever series between two "new" teams. There has to be a reasonable explanation, including random probability, but it seems odd fifty years after the first expansion that it has never happened before. Half of the teams in the National League are "new" now...
October 16th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
If we get a Brewers-Rangers World Series, no matter which team wins, we will finally end up with a situation in which multiple expansion teams from the same year will have won a World Series. Since 2002, each expansion team grouping has had exactly one team with a World Series win.
1961 - Angels finally won in 2002, 2nd Senators/Rangers have never won one.
1962 - Mets won in 1969 (and again in 1986), Colt .45s/Astros have never won one.
1969 - Royals won in 1985 (thanks to a blown umpire call mentioned in comments in another new entry today), Pilots/Brewers, Padres, and Expos/Nationals have never won one.
1977 - Blue Jays won in 1992 (and again in 1993), Mariners have never won one.
1993 - Marlins won in 1997 (and again in 2003), Rockies have never won one.
1998 - Diamondbacks (are they officially called the D'backs now?) won in 2001, Rays have never won one.
So, unless the Cardinals in the World Series (and I'm definitely not counting them out), one of the years listed above will have finally had a second expansion team World Series winner.
Ironically, in 4 of the past 6 years, one of the not-yet-been-champion expansion teams has been the losing team in the World Series:
The Astros in 2005
The Rockies in 2007
The Rays in 2008
The Rangers in 2010
Since the Astros and Rockies got swept, these two franchises have yet to win a World Series game. Of course, that's still better than the Expos/Nationals and Mariners, who have yet to make it to the World Series.
October 16th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
DD,
Of the six expansions which have won, three have won in a walk-off at least once, and the other three have come back to win the sixth game facing elimination and seemingly unsurmountable odds.
The time the Blue Jays didn't win in a walk-off, they won in extra innings.
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October 16th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
DD,
I should mention also that both the Marlins and Dbacks stared down elimination in a seventh game, ninth inning do or die situation.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
@7, @9 - Interesting observations on how these expansion teams won their World Series. Although the Mets forced game 7 in 1986, their first World Series win, in 1969, was in a five-game series in which they lost the first game but then took the next four.
Every World Series won by the Mets, Marlins, or Phillies has occurred in a year in which July 4 was a Friday. In addition, every World Series won by the Phillies has occurred in a leap year in which both February 29 and July 4 fell on Fridays.
Every World Series in a year in which July 4 fell on Friday has been won by a team from one of the following categories:
1. A current NL East team not called the Atlanta Braves (Mets, Phillies, and Marlins).
2. The Cincinnati Reds.
3. An American League team that, at the time, represented a city that currently has a team in the NL East (Yankees, Philadelphia Athletics, and the only World Series ever won by the Washington Senators).
There are similar coincidences for years in which July 4 fell on a Tuesday involving the Cardinals, Athletics (Oakland in 1972 and 1989, possibly Philadelphia earlier in the 20th century), Yankees, and New York Giants, but 1995 deviates with the Braves, who don't show up elsewhere for this match-up in either Boston, Milwaukee, or Atlanta.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
July 4 on Tuesday continuation - I just checked a few more things. Yes, the Philadelphia Athletics won in 1911, so they are part of this. However, the Boston Red Sox won in 1916, and they haven't won in any other such year (probably coming the closest in 1978). So, 1916 and 1995 are aberrations.
October 16th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
The Brewers could conceivably do it tonight.
October 17th, 2011 at 9:37 am
To answer your question, JA...Chris Carpenter will pitch a CG in Game 1. You heard it here first.
October 17th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
@6 - it looks like one way to never win a World Series is to change your team's name. (You could add the Devil/non-devil Rays to that list). Relocating is fine if you keep the original name: Athletics, Braves, Dodgers, Giants.
The Senators/Twins and Browns/Orioles both moved before expansion, so it's possible that this rule was passed by the Baseball Gods in '62, and those guys were grandfathered in. Best not to risk it, though. Go Texas Senators!!!!
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