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58 Responses to “The greatest trade in baseball history”
I was pretty dissapointed that the M's traded Fister (and Pauley). They were so much fun to watch pitch, but the M's really got some good pieces in return. I think both clubs will definitely see long term gains from this. Ever since Fister was traded, I've started to root for those Tigers. I would love to see Tigers-Rangers battling it out for the AL Pennant.
Seriously. If it ain't your cup of tea, then skip it. If it really makes you not want to participate in all the regular content on the blog, then so be it...
this trade reminds me when jay leno would show wedding headline clippings, like the "harry/wang" wedding, and so on...
these types of things are meant as harmless chuckles, and i feel very sorry for those offended by this type of occasional juvenile humor.
end rant.
We hope you're joking. If not, we are triangulating right now to arrange for an intervention that will suck (pardon the phrase) the moralizing out of your marrow...or vice-versa.
And let's not forget, Andy, that statistically speaking, one in the Fister is generally much more reliable for the task "at hand" than any number in, around, above, below, or en flagrante as regards the Furbush.
And the results since the trade seem to "dovetail" with this...
It's one thing to try to force humor like this into a conversation from out of nowhere. It's another thing completely to take advantage of a setup like this on the rare occasion that it comes along legitimately. Kudos for picking up on it.
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Over at lookoutlanding.com, every possible comment was made within seconds of this trade, and the whole thing was declared a dead meme minutes later. Of course Fister came up through the Mariners system, so all the "I hardly know her!" jokes got taken out and shot years earlier.
I have to say though, I always find it strange how outraged some people can be by mere words -- particularly when you consider all the awful actions going on all the time in the world that have real consequences for real people. Personally, I can only support a finite amount of outrage and I like to reserve it for things that really matter.
@19, nothing vulgar was said. Implied, at most. Interpret it however you wish. And if you can't take a laugh, I don't know how you get through the average day.
Thank you for a respectful response.
I am not outraged.
I feel this subject is not appropriate for this baseball blog. I'm sorry it's so trivial a matter and I should never have spoken out.
I think in the context you raised it above, vulgarity refers specifically to words considered vulgar. I agree with you that the concept joked about here is vulgar, though. It certainly was not my intent to offend; you are certainly entitled to stop reading this blog, provided that you can pull yourself away from this very thread.
Sorry, I'm an intelligent 27-year-old, but (setting aside the question of whether or not this posting is appropriate for BR.com) I don't perceive the implied hilarious pun. I'm aware of the act that "Fister" could refer to, but what's odd about "Furbush"? I mean, "bush" is occasionally used as a slang term for body hair, but is used much more commonly by its non-slang definition (plants, shrubbery, etc.) And, what's funny about "Furbush"?
I honestly don't get it, this seems pretty weak/pointless as "naughty" humor.
Wow! I remember when Carson would do the OREL (Hershiser) (Steve) SAX jokes back in the 80's. Then, in college I met a girl with the name of Ellen D*ckhut (seriously).
@26 I'm an intelligent 35-year-old and I find it rather difficult to fathom that another intelligent individual like yourself, does not see the jocularity of this thread...and to break down the roots of the words...really?! This feels reminiscent of the poker game in "40-Year-Old Virgin." Let me guess, you think that a woman's boobles feel like a bag of sand, right??
On another note...I think that it is refreshing to have a little outside the "box" fun at B-R...as opposed to reading & commenting on articles about baseball players who have had 2 triples in a game, on their birthday, in the Central Time Zone, whose name is Jim & who can play the theme song to the "Love Boat" on a banjo.
"I think in the context you raised it above, vulgarity refers specifically to words considered vulgar. I agree with you that the concept joked about here is vulgar, though. It certainly was not my intent to offend".
You should have stopped there. Sounded very sincere.
Keep your topic posted. I don't care anymore.
The "objectionable" responses and personal attacks were going out of control until I posted 19. Now they're back again. Joe was right at 20.
You know what you're missing here? The people who frequently post multiple times on topics like baseball players who have had 2 triples in a game.
I'm done with this topic and will reply no further. If you feel the need to respond, so be it, enjoy.
@ Charles, take it from one who has made the same mistake: you are being way too sensitive. I don't see any personal attacks on this post against anybody. I see that you posted an opinion and numerous others posted their opinions in opposition to yours. I suspect you're having a strong overreaction because the general population is not backing you up.
And my comments in 24 were entirely sincere, start to finish. I didn't mean to offend and you are of course entitled to walk away, except for the fact that if you were so offended in the first place, why do you keep checking back on this thread? You're offended AND feel personally attacked, and yet you keep coming back. And even though you said you're done in #30, I strongly suspect you'll be back to read my comment here.
@27,28,29 Well, I expected to see "banjo hitter" in The Dickson Baseball Dictionary, but "ukulele hitter" surprised me. No guitar men. If I find any other members of the band I'll come back and tell you.
I think it's really interesting how many comments on this thread come from non-regular posters--clearly this post appeals to a slightly different crowd from usual. 🙂
I was waiting for the Lou Brock or Nolan Ryan trades to come up and then I read it a second time and it cracked me up,,,, If Furbush was
traded do the Yanks ... would a trim be required? Was'nt the groundskeeper included? Gotta admit the Rusty Kuntz reference came
immediately to line....
This was not vulgar or obscene.. it was clever in a sophomoric innuendo way.... get over it !!!!
Jacob, Furbush is not a perfect excuse for a harmless pun, since it is redundant, but it is close enough. Not questioning your intelligence, but it seems from your break down that you do not realize that the Bush part refers to the gush around...lady parts. So it is quite adequate as a protagonist with fister!
Yes, when only an implied pun, a silly diversion, & meant with no malice but mild bawdy humor-I do not think it is useful to object or censor this irreverent fun.
Now I will not tolerate using the esteemed Mr. Glasscock paired with any rough semantic semblance of feminine/receptive agent surnames! or, er, Hernames.
IF one saw something vulgar in that post - it's the reader's fault. My 6 year old son saw the post as a synapsis of an important trade for the Tigers' pennant run - I saw it a little differently.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
if folks are actually serious about bailing on this site, because somebody posted something that literally made me LOL, then you know what? I'll pick up the slack. I'll force myself to carve out the time to start seriously studying sabermetrics in depth. I'll start posting a hell of a lot more analytical (sorry, did that[!] word upset anyone) comments, rather than casual comments about how bad the Twins have sucked this year, and so on. I'll stay up, so that even though I'm hours behind, I'll catch the new posts as they come out, so that I can be the first one to comment, rather than the last.
Oh, I'm bluffing, probably. (The mind is willing, but only so many hours in the day.) But, there's no way in hell that people should be ripping this site, for posting something that was in no way mean-spirited. This site is one of the best things the Internet offers. It has been very good for me, to me. The work that so many put into this site, from posters, to those who visit, and comment...this is a labor of love, not a labor of hatred, by haters. Were it that this thread was meant to attack, or cause harm, I'd feel differently, maybe. But it wasn't. We're all adults. Get over it already.
(btw, John Autin, recently, in one of your game-day wrap-ups, you did give some extended analysis regarding MN's 2011 season, as it were- excellent piece. Many thanks.)
OK, Furbush allowed a pseudo-cycle in the 1st inning of that game:
Triple, home run, single, double(-play).
He did complete the true cycle with a double in the 3rd. In fact, in just 3 innings, Furbush checked off most of the things that can go in a pitcher's game line: besides the cycle and the GDP, there was a walk, a HBP, a SB, a sac fly ... and I'm just sure that passed ball charged to Olivo should have been a wild pitch.
Wondering how so many non-regulars are getting involved? You've gone viral! A friend of a friend told me about this thread, and I have to say the tenor of the comments is at least as entertaining as the subject. Nice how some were able to weave in some names from the past (were Kuntz and LaCock ever teammates? Good one. And if they had been, would they by chance have been playing for the Youngstown Puddlers or the Waterbury Rough Riders?).
An fascinating dialogue is worth comment. I think that you should write extra on this matter, it won't be a taboo topic but usually individuals are not enough to talk on such topics. To the next. Cheers
[...] • This guy is late — really late — to making jokes about Doug Fister and Charlie Furbush being involved in the same trade. I thought a statute of limitations had already been enacted on such jokes. [Baseball-Reference] [...]
Thanks for this excellent article. Yet another thing to mention is that a lot of digital cameras come equipped with a zoom lens that allows more or less of your scene to become included through 'zooming' in and out. These kind of changes in focus length are generally reflected inside the viewfinder and on significant display screen right at the back of the specific camera.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:44 am
I was pretty dissapointed that the M's traded Fister (and Pauley). They were so much fun to watch pitch, but the M's really got some good pieces in return. I think both clubs will definitely see long term gains from this. Ever since Fister was traded, I've started to root for those Tigers. I would love to see Tigers-Rangers battling it out for the AL Pennant.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:57 am
That was decidedly low-brow, but made me chuckle!
September 21st, 2011 at 11:01 am
It's as low-brow as it gets, indeed.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:26 am
Please, no Rusty Kuntz jokes here.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:40 am
My nominee for starting pitcher with an even more, uhh, awkward surname than Fister or Furbush: Doug McWeeny.
I'm really glad for Fister. He deserves a little postseason glory after all the unrewarded good pitching that he did for the Mariners.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:54 am
There's an old joke about Virigl Trucks and Johny Kucks, but this is a family website.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:54 am
Maybe it's because I'm female.
Maybe it's because I didn't get my college education while living in a dorm.
Maybe it's because I'm over 50.
But I don't get the brunt of this joke.
September 21st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Andy, If this post is still on here tomorrow, I will no longer participate in this blog.
September 21st, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Oh God! Leave it to the PC police to show up when somebody interjects crude sophomoric humor!
September 21st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Seriously. If it ain't your cup of tea, then skip it. If it really makes you not want to participate in all the regular content on the blog, then so be it...
September 21st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
this trade reminds me when jay leno would show wedding headline clippings, like the "harry/wang" wedding, and so on...
these types of things are meant as harmless chuckles, and i feel very sorry for those offended by this type of occasional juvenile humor.
end rant.
September 21st, 2011 at 2:48 pm
To appreciate this kind of humor you have to have the mind of a 12 year old. Which fortunately I do, in a jar down in my basement...
September 21st, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Charles,
We hope you're joking. If not, we are triangulating right now to arrange for an intervention that will suck (pardon the phrase) the moralizing out of your marrow...or vice-versa.
And let's not forget, Andy, that statistically speaking, one in the Fister is generally much more reliable for the task "at hand" than any number in, around, above, below, or en flagrante as regards the Furbush.
And the results since the trade seem to "dovetail" with this...
September 21st, 2011 at 3:12 pm
@12. Is that Emo or Steven Wright?
September 21st, 2011 at 3:47 pm
There was a start this year between Furbush and Hochevar. It's funnier if you know how to properly pronounce Hochevar.
Headline reads:
Hochevar mows down Furbush
September 21st, 2011 at 4:10 pm
If this post isn't still here tomorrow, I will no longer participate in this blog.....
September 21st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
I'm cancelling my subscription to Sports Illustrated because of the swimsuit issue and Time because Hitler was once their Man of the Year.
September 21st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
It's one thing to try to force humor like this into a conversation from out of nowhere. It's another thing completely to take advantage of a setup like this on the rare occasion that it comes along legitimately. Kudos for picking up on it.
September 21st, 2011 at 4:23 pm
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September 21st, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Over at lookoutlanding.com, every possible comment was made within seconds of this trade, and the whole thing was declared a dead meme minutes later. Of course Fister came up through the Mariners system, so all the "I hardly know her!" jokes got taken out and shot years earlier.
I have to say though, I always find it strange how outraged some people can be by mere words -- particularly when you consider all the awful actions going on all the time in the world that have real consequences for real people. Personally, I can only support a finite amount of outrage and I like to reserve it for things that really matter.
September 21st, 2011 at 5:11 pm
@19, nothing vulgar was said. Implied, at most. Interpret it however you wish. And if you can't take a laugh, I don't know how you get through the average day.
September 21st, 2011 at 5:14 pm
@20
Thank you for a respectful response.
I am not outraged.
I feel this subject is not appropriate for this baseball blog. I'm sorry it's so trivial a matter and I should never have spoken out.
September 21st, 2011 at 5:24 pm
@19
Vulgarity is an opinion. So is humor.
September 21st, 2011 at 5:34 pm
I think in the context you raised it above, vulgarity refers specifically to words considered vulgar. I agree with you that the concept joked about here is vulgar, though. It certainly was not my intent to offend; you are certainly entitled to stop reading this blog, provided that you can pull yourself away from this very thread.
September 21st, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Inappropriate and creepy.
September 21st, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Sorry, I'm an intelligent 27-year-old, but (setting aside the question of whether or not this posting is appropriate for BR.com) I don't perceive the implied hilarious pun. I'm aware of the act that "Fister" could refer to, but what's odd about "Furbush"? I mean, "bush" is occasionally used as a slang term for body hair, but is used much more commonly by its non-slang definition (plants, shrubbery, etc.) And, what's funny about "Furbush"?
I honestly don't get it, this seems pretty weak/pointless as "naughty" humor.
September 21st, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Wow! I remember when Carson would do the OREL (Hershiser) (Steve) SAX jokes back in the 80's. Then, in college I met a girl with the name of Ellen D*ckhut (seriously).
@26 I'm an intelligent 35-year-old and I find it rather difficult to fathom that another intelligent individual like yourself, does not see the jocularity of this thread...and to break down the roots of the words...really?! This feels reminiscent of the poker game in "40-Year-Old Virgin." Let me guess, you think that a woman's boobles feel like a bag of sand, right??
On another note...I think that it is refreshing to have a little outside the "box" fun at B-R...as opposed to reading & commenting on articles about baseball players who have had 2 triples in a game, on their birthday, in the Central Time Zone, whose name is Jim & who can play the theme song to the "Love Boat" on a banjo.
September 21st, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Man, it was awesome when Sean added that banjo option to the Play Index. It really opened up what we were able to research.
September 21st, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Some guys want an ostentatious car, nice house or a beautiful woman...I say no, Andy! Now, we have the banjo option...I can die a happy man 🙂
September 21st, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Andy:
"I think in the context you raised it above, vulgarity refers specifically to words considered vulgar. I agree with you that the concept joked about here is vulgar, though. It certainly was not my intent to offend".
You should have stopped there. Sounded very sincere.
Keep your topic posted. I don't care anymore.
The "objectionable" responses and personal attacks were going out of control until I posted 19. Now they're back again. Joe was right at 20.
You know what you're missing here? The people who frequently post multiple times on topics like baseball players who have had 2 triples in a game.
I'm done with this topic and will reply no further. If you feel the need to respond, so be it, enjoy.
September 21st, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Re @29, R U sure Sean is not just stringing us along?
September 21st, 2011 at 7:57 pm
@ Charles, take it from one who has made the same mistake: you are being way too sensitive. I don't see any personal attacks on this post against anybody. I see that you posted an opinion and numerous others posted their opinions in opposition to yours. I suspect you're having a strong overreaction because the general population is not backing you up.
And my comments in 24 were entirely sincere, start to finish. I didn't mean to offend and you are of course entitled to walk away, except for the fact that if you were so offended in the first place, why do you keep checking back on this thread? You're offended AND feel personally attacked, and yet you keep coming back. And even though you said you're done in #30, I strongly suspect you'll be back to read my comment here.
September 21st, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Nice one @31! I just want to say one more thing about the banjo:
Q: What is the difference between a banjo and a South American Macaw?
A: One is loud, obnoxious and noisy; the other is a bird.
And from the bottom of my heart (strings)...can everyone please give Charles a virtual hug...I think he needs one!
September 21st, 2011 at 8:14 pm
@27,28,29 Well, I expected to see "banjo hitter" in The Dickson Baseball Dictionary, but "ukulele hitter" surprised me. No guitar men. If I find any other members of the band I'll come back and tell you.
September 21st, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Fister? I didn't even know her.
September 21st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
I think it's really interesting how many comments on this thread come from non-regular posters--clearly this post appeals to a slightly different crowd from usual. 🙂
September 21st, 2011 at 9:12 pm
I was waiting for the Lou Brock or Nolan Ryan trades to come up and then I read it a second time and it cracked me up,,,, If Furbush was
traded do the Yanks ... would a trim be required? Was'nt the groundskeeper included? Gotta admit the Rusty Kuntz reference came
immediately to line....
This was not vulgar or obscene.. it was clever in a sophomoric innuendo way.... get over it !!!!
September 21st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
All I can say is..keep it up Andy!!! If a person can't see the humor in this, their parents didn't raise them right!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Jacob, Furbush is not a perfect excuse for a harmless pun, since it is redundant, but it is close enough. Not questioning your intelligence, but it seems from your break down that you do not realize that the Bush part refers to the gush around...lady parts. So it is quite adequate as a protagonist with fister!
Yes, when only an implied pun, a silly diversion, & meant with no malice but mild bawdy humor-I do not think it is useful to object or censor this irreverent fun.
Now I will not tolerate using the esteemed Mr. Glasscock paired with any rough semantic semblance of feminine/receptive agent surnames! or, er, Hernames.
Unless they are very funny.
September 21st, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Oh Jeez, I honesty meant to type Bush, not gush. No really!
September 21st, 2011 at 10:59 pm
lol,3 your so hot go out with me baby.
September 21st, 2011 at 11:00 pm
lol ill ga\ive you all my money if you go out am so desperate.
September 22nd, 2011 at 12:19 am
@4, I just had to check whether Rusty Kuntz and Pete LaCock were ever teammates. (They weren't, dangit.)
September 22nd, 2011 at 12:40 am
I was in the bleachers for the yankee game tonight and this would not have cracked the top 10 for "most crude things heard" list
September 22nd, 2011 at 1:19 am
IF one saw something vulgar in that post - it's the reader's fault. My 6 year old son saw the post as a synapsis of an important trade for the Tigers' pennant run - I saw it a little differently.
September 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 am
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
if folks are actually serious about bailing on this site, because somebody posted something that literally made me LOL, then you know what? I'll pick up the slack. I'll force myself to carve out the time to start seriously studying sabermetrics in depth. I'll start posting a hell of a lot more analytical (sorry, did that[!] word upset anyone) comments, rather than casual comments about how bad the Twins have sucked this year, and so on. I'll stay up, so that even though I'm hours behind, I'll catch the new posts as they come out, so that I can be the first one to comment, rather than the last.
Oh, I'm bluffing, probably. (The mind is willing, but only so many hours in the day.) But, there's no way in hell that people should be ripping this site, for posting something that was in no way mean-spirited. This site is one of the best things the Internet offers. It has been very good for me, to me. The work that so many put into this site, from posters, to those who visit, and comment...this is a labor of love, not a labor of hatred, by haters. Were it that this thread was meant to attack, or cause harm, I'd feel differently, maybe. But it wasn't. We're all adults. Get over it already.
AMEN, EVIL SQUIRREL (16)!!!
September 22nd, 2011 at 5:12 am
(btw, John Autin, recently, in one of your game-day wrap-ups, you did give some extended analysis regarding MN's 2011 season, as it were- excellent piece. Many thanks.)
September 22nd, 2011 at 8:56 am
Hey, the trade worked out for Fister, but what about me?
*Charles R. Furbush*
September 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 am
@48 -- Does the "R" stand for "Re"?
September 22nd, 2011 at 11:05 am
As one with a foot in both camps, it saddens me to report that Charlie Furbush has never allowed 2 triples in a game.
In fact, he's allowed just 1 triple at all. Let's see what I can squeeze from that....
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TBA/TBA201108200.shtml
OK, Furbush allowed a pseudo-cycle in the 1st inning of that game:
Triple, home run, single, double(-play).
He did complete the true cycle with a double in the 3rd. In fact, in just 3 innings, Furbush checked off most of the things that can go in a pitcher's game line: besides the cycle and the GDP, there was a walk, a HBP, a SB, a sac fly ... and I'm just sure that passed ball charged to Olivo should have been a wild pitch.
September 22nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
@49 -- Good one! Quite the wordsmith.
September 22nd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Wondering how so many non-regulars are getting involved? You've gone viral! A friend of a friend told me about this thread, and I have to say the tenor of the comments is at least as entertaining as the subject. Nice how some were able to weave in some names from the past (were Kuntz and LaCock ever teammates? Good one. And if they had been, would they by chance have been playing for the Youngstown Puddlers or the Waterbury Rough Riders?).
September 22nd, 2011 at 1:53 pm
Fister in hand is better than two in the Furbush.
September 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 pm
An fascinating dialogue is worth comment. I think that you should write extra on this matter, it won't be a taboo topic but usually individuals are not enough to talk on such topics. To the next. Cheers
September 24th, 2011 at 12:51 am
[...] • This guy is late — really late — to making jokes about Doug Fister and Charlie Furbush being involved in the same trade. I thought a statute of limitations had already been enacted on such jokes. [Baseball-Reference] [...]
September 24th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Thanks for this excellent article. Yet another thing to mention is that a lot of digital cameras come equipped with a zoom lens that allows more or less of your scene to become included through 'zooming' in and out. These kind of changes in focus length are generally reflected inside the viewfinder and on significant display screen right at the back of the specific camera.
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