Most Homeruns Playing for 5+ Franchises
Posted by Raphy on August 16, 2011
One thing that struck me while watching the the Jim Thome celebration is the sheer number of teams that he has been on. After spending the first 12 seasons of his career in Cleveland, Thome has also played for the Phillies, White Sox, Dodgers and Twins. As you would expect, Thome has the most home runs for anyone who played on at least 5 teams. Here are the leaders.
Rk | Player | HR | From | To | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | Tm | |||||
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1 | Jim Thome | 600 | 5 | 1991 | 2011 | 20-40 | 2456 | 10020 | 8167 | 1553 | 2263 | 440 | 26 | 1662 | 1710 | 169 | 2453 | 68 | 1 | 74 | 158 | 19 | 20 | .277 | .403 | .558 | .961 | 3D5 | CLE-PHI-CHW-LAD-MIN |
2 | Frank Robinson | 586 | 5 | 1956 | 1976 | 20-40 | 2808 | 11743 | 10006 | 1829 | 2943 | 528 | 72 | 1812 | 1420 | 218 | 1532 | 198 | 17 | 102 | 270 | 204 | 77 | .294 | .389 | .537 | .926 | 97D38/5 | CIN-BAL-LAD-CAL-CLE |
3 | Manny Ramirez | 555 | 5 | 1993 | 2011 | 21-39 | 2302 | 9774 | 8244 | 1544 | 2574 | 547 | 20 | 1831 | 1329 | 216 | 1813 | 109 | 2 | 90 | 243 | 38 | 33 | .312 | .411 | .585 | .996 | 79D | CLE-BOS-LAD-CHW-TBR |
4 | Gary Sheffield | 509 | 8 | 1988 | 2009 | 19-40 | 2576 | 10947 | 9217 | 1636 | 2689 | 467 | 27 | 1676 | 1475 | 130 | 1171 | 135 | 9 | 111 | 235 | 253 | 104 | .292 | .393 | .514 | .907 | 975D/63 | MIL-SDP-FLA-LAD-ATL-NYY-DET-NYM |
5 | Eddie Murray | 504 | 5 | 1977 | 1997 | 21-41 | 3026 | 12817 | 11336 | 1627 | 3255 | 560 | 35 | 1917 | 1333 | 222 | 1516 | 18 | 2 | 128 | 315 | 110 | 43 | .287 | .359 | .476 | .836 | *3D/57 | BAL-LAD-NYM-CLE-ANA |
6 | Fred McGriff | 493 | 6 | 1986 | 2004 | 22-40 | 2460 | 10174 | 8757 | 1349 | 2490 | 441 | 24 | 1550 | 1305 | 171 | 1882 | 39 | 2 | 71 | 226 | 72 | 38 | .284 | .377 | .509 | .886 | *3D | TOR-SDP-ATL-TBD-CHC-LAD |
7 | Dave Winfield | 465 | 6 | 1973 | 1995 | 21-43 | 2973 | 12358 | 11003 | 1669 | 3110 | 540 | 88 | 1833 | 1216 | 172 | 1686 | 25 | 19 | 95 | 319 | 223 | 96 | .283 | .353 | .475 | .827 | *97D8/35 | SDP-NYY-CAL-TOR-MIN-CLE |
8 | Jose Canseco | 462 | 7 | 1985 | 2001 | 20-36 | 1887 | 8129 | 7057 | 1186 | 1877 | 340 | 14 | 1407 | 906 | 63 | 1942 | 84 | 1 | 81 | 178 | 200 | 88 | .266 | .353 | .515 | .867 | D97/81 | OAK-TEX-BOS-TOR-TBD-NYY-CHW |
9 | Dave Kingman | 442 | 7 | 1971 | 1986 | 22-37 | 1941 | 7429 | 6677 | 901 | 1575 | 240 | 25 | 1210 | 608 | 72 | 1816 | 53 | 16 | 75 | 139 | 85 | 49 | .236 | .302 | .478 | .780 | 37D59/1 | SFG-NYM-SDP-NYY-CAL-CHC-OAK |
10 | Mike Piazza | 427 | 5 | 1992 | 2007 | 23-38 | 1912 | 7745 | 6911 | 1048 | 2127 | 344 | 8 | 1335 | 759 | 146 | 1113 | 30 | 0 | 45 | 229 | 17 | 20 | .308 | .377 | .545 | .922 | *2D/3 | LAD-NYM-FLA-SDP-OAK |
11 | Andruw Jones | 414 | 5 | 1996 | 2011 | 19-34 | 2077 | 8312 | 7298 | 1165 | 1870 | 372 | 36 | 1246 | 851 | 68 | 1655 | 89 | 6 | 68 | 189 | 152 | 59 | .256 | .338 | .487 | .826 | *89/D73 | ATL-LAD-TEX-CHW-NYY |
12 | Andres Galarraga | 399 | 7 | 1985 | 2004 | 24-43 | 2257 | 8916 | 8096 | 1195 | 2333 | 444 | 32 | 1425 | 583 | 106 | 2003 | 178 | 1 | 58 | 179 | 128 | 81 | .288 | .347 | .499 | .846 | *3/D5 | MON-STL-COL-ATL-SFG-TEX-ANA |
13 | Joe Carter | 396 | 6 | 1983 | 1998 | 23-38 | 2189 | 9154 | 8422 | 1170 | 2184 | 432 | 53 | 1445 | 527 | 86 | 1387 | 90 | 10 | 105 | 132 | 231 | 66 | .259 | .306 | .464 | .771 | 7983D/45 | CHC-CLE-SDP-TOR-SFG-BAL |
14 | Jim Edmonds | 393 | 6 | 1993 | 2010 | 23-40 | 2011 | 7980 | 6858 | 1251 | 1949 | 437 | 25 | 1199 | 998 | 91 | 1729 | 49 | 10 | 65 | 122 | 67 | 50 | .284 | .376 | .527 | .903 | *8/739D | CAL-ANA-STL-SDP-CHC-MIL-CIN |
15 | Graig Nettles | 390 | 6 | 1967 | 1988 | 22-43 | 2700 | 10226 | 8986 | 1193 | 2225 | 328 | 28 | 1314 | 1088 | 94 | 1209 | 50 | 12 | 90 | 197 | 32 | 36 | .248 | .329 | .421 | .750 | *5/739D68 | MIN-CLE-NYY-SDP-ATL-MON |
16 | Harold Baines | 384 | 5 | 1980 | 2001 | 21-42 | 2830 | 11092 | 9908 | 1299 | 2866 | 488 | 49 | 1628 | 1062 | 187 | 1441 | 14 | 9 | 99 | 298 | 34 | 34 | .289 | .356 | .465 | .820 | *D9/87 | CHW-TEX-OAK-BAL-CLE |
17 | Orlando Cepeda | 379 | 6 | 1958 | 1974 | 20-36 | 2124 | 8695 | 7927 | 1131 | 2351 | 417 | 27 | 1365 | 588 | 154 | 1169 | 102 | 4 | 74 | 218 | 142 | 80 | .297 | .350 | .499 | .849 | *37D/95 | SFG-STL-ATL-OAK-BOS-KCR |
18 | Jeff Kent | 377 | 6 | 1992 | 2008 | 24-40 | 2298 | 9537 | 8498 | 1320 | 2461 | 560 | 47 | 1518 | 801 | 61 | 1522 | 125 | 10 | 103 | 224 | 94 | 60 | .290 | .356 | .500 | .855 | *453/D6 | NYM-TOR-CLE-SFG-HOU-LAD |
19 | Rocky Colavito | 374 | 6 | 1955 | 1968 | 21-34 | 1841 | 7559 | 6503 | 971 | 1730 | 283 | 21 | 1159 | 951 | 58 | 880 | 29 | 16 | 60 | 182 | 19 | 27 | .266 | .359 | .489 | .848 | *97/31 | CLE-DET-KCA-CHW-LAD-NYY |
20 | Gary Gaetti | 360 | 6 | 1981 | 2000 | 22-41 | 2507 | 9817 | 8951 | 1130 | 2280 | 443 | 39 | 1341 | 634 | 57 | 1602 | 96 | 32 | 104 | 236 | 96 | 65 | .255 | .308 | .434 | .741 | *53/D67149 | MIN-CAL-KCR-STL-CHC-BOS |
August 16th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Of the 500 guys, I can almost attach (in my head) a team to each guy.
Thome: Clevland
Murray: Baltimore
Robinson: Baltimore
Ramirez: Redsox
But Shefield, I can't associate him to any one team. And I think that accurately describes him as a player also.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
@1, I think of F Robby and Manny as 2-team guys.
Robinson spent more time with Cincy than with Balt, and Ramirez spent virtually the same amount of time with Cle as Boston.
Off the top of my head I think of SD and Fla for Sheffield, but not due to significant lengths of time.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
@1 Funny, I was thinking the same thing re: Sheffield. If he were to make the HOF some day, which team's cap would he wear?
August 16th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Bummer that Jimmers didn't hit just one HR for the Dodgers.
August 16th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
@3 - Milwaukee Brewers 🙂
August 16th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Isn't it incredible how quickly Andruw Jones reached 5 teams after leaving Atlanta? It doesn't feel like that long ago when he was a 1 franchise guy.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
@5 Brett,
As a lifelong Wisconsin resident I love the joke.
August 16th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Interesting that none of these players started their careers before 1955*. I'm guessing that this relates to the rules on interleague trades, when before 1959 a team had to request waivers on a player and essentially "pass" the player through the entire league, to trade them to the other league. I've read that's why it was a big deal in 1947 when Hank Greenberg got traded to the Pirates.
Does anyone know why they changed that rule?
*The Search for Silly Useless Factoids*:
Who hit home runs for the _most different_ teams? I remember there was a post recently, when Matt Stairs retired, about who played for the most different teams, but I don't recall the actual leader.
Stairs played for 12 teams, but didn't hit a HR for the Expos/Nationals, so he hit HRs for "only" 11 teams. Any takers?
* Free agency also played a role in more players changing teams
August 16th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Who hit home runs for the most different teams?
Stairs is tied with Todd Zeile, who also homered for 11 different franchises: Cardinals 75, Mets 41, Dodgers 38, Rangers 30, Phillies 20, Rockies 18, Cubs 9, Marlins 6, Yankees 6, Expos 5, Orioles 5.
August 16th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
@9/ Kahuna Tuna - thanks... interesting that for his long, productive career, Zeile never was an All-Star, and was very rarely on the seasonal leaderboards.
Any explanation for the 1959 change in interleague trade rules?
August 16th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
This would be a good time to bring back that Fred McGriff HOF meme...
August 16th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
@11
Here's a blog about Mr. McGriff and the hall of fame, if you're interested:
http://www.andypatton.net/?p=119
August 16th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Did anyone else notice that the Top 6 players and 10 of this Top 20 all spent time with the Los Angeles Dodgers? Dodger Stadium has never been a hitters park. Also, that all 20 players spent time with teams in California. The night time marine layer that covers the West Coast has a definite effect on the ball. It makes it heavier as the night continues.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Interesting that none of these players started their careers before 1955*. I'm guessing that this relates to the rules on interleague trades
For the record, 17 players with at least 360 HR debuted before 1955, and 57 since.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Did anyone else notice that the Top 6 players and 10 of this Top 20 all spent time with the Los Angeles Dodgers? Dodger Stadium has never been a hitters park.
Yes, but historically I think it has suppressed BA, and not necessarily HR.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
@ K Tuna
Reggie Sanders hit 25 for 4 different teams.
20 for 6 different teams.
And 10 for 8 different teams, 8 teams in 9 years. Crazy!
Sheff also had 10 HRs for 8 different teams and 25 HRs for 6 different teams.
Jack Clark had 25 HR for 5 different teams.
McGriff had 30 HRs for 5 different teams.
Dave Kingman had at least 2 HRs for 4 different teams in one year (77)!!!
Joe Carter played 162 games had 20 HRs and 100 RBIs and 10 SBs 3 straight years for 3 different teams.
And Todd Zeile had at least 2 HRs for 11 different teams in a 10 year span.
August 16th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Now you're talkin' my language, Duke! One of those Reggie Sanders years was here in San Diego. (A very fine player.) All of the players you name played in S.D. at some point except Zeile.
Follow me now as I go through some players who hit very few homers for lots of teams. Otis Nixon smashed 11 home runs over 17 seasons for his nine teams. Paul Bako ripped 24 home runs for 11 different teams over 12 seasons. And, to cinch up the O—— ——o pattern, with seven home runs for eight different teams over eight seasons, please welcome Orlando Mercado.
August 17th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Regarding where these players have played - I see that Thome is the only one who has ever played for the Phillies. My long-time favorite AL team (1966-2001), the Orioles, has had a few of them, including Robinson and Murray.
I was surprised to see Jim Edmonds (best, although slight, chance to get someone born on June 27 into the Hall of Fame) on this list. I only remember him playing for two teams - the Angels and the Cardinals.
Teams I think of for some of these players. I realize that some of them had some outstanding stints for other teams, but these are how I picture them. I've omitted some for whom I have too many different team memories or, conversely, not enough for one team.
Jim Thome - Indians and Phillies
Frank Robinson - Orioles and Reds
Manny Ramirez - Red Sox
Eddie Murray - Orioles
Fred McGriff - Braves
Dave Winfield - Padres and Yankees
Jose Canseco - A's
Mike Piazza - Dodgers
Andruw Jones - Braves
Andres Galarraga - Expos and Rockies
Joe Carter - Blue Jays (of course)
Jim Edmonds - Angels and Cardinals
Graig Nettles - Yankees
Harold Baines - White Sox (multiple times through the south side of Chicago)
Orlando Cepeda - Giants
Rocky Colavito - Tigers
Gary Gaetti - Twins
Another thing, besides interleague trading and free agency, that I think has allowed more of these players to be with more teams in their careers is the DH. Quite a few of the above players, including some heretofore National Leaguers, ended up DH-ing with one or more AL teams near the end. And teams tend to look for power hitting types to serve as their DH's.