All-Star or Not an All-Star Option added to the Play Index Season Finders
Posted by Sean Forman on July 9, 2010
Most Career Home Runs Without Making an All-Star Team - Baseball-Reference.com
Thanks to a user suggestion I just added a new option to the season finders. You can select whether or not the player had ever been on an all-star team (named not played).
For instance, selecting the Not an all-star bubble, career totals and 1933-2010 you get the above list. This is on the batting and pitching season finders.
July 9th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Well, you can take #53 off that list, Swisher was voted in yesterday. 🙂
July 9th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Brilliant.
Kirk Gibson won an MVP without ever making the all-star team. I think there is one other guy to do that too, among those who have played since the inception of the All-Star game....anybody remember who?
July 9th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
I was just checking that, Andy. I think Gibson is the only one. (Even Zoilo Versalles made it!)
Please correct me if I overlooked someone.
July 9th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
This was my suggestion to the PI...
July 9th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
So those are the years for the all-star or not?
Player X is listed as the most HR from year XXXX to XXXX but his most HR year he didn't make the game...if that's possible.
July 9th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
I don't think Willie Stargell was an all-star the year he won the MVP in 1979. And Stargell may be the only position player to win the MVP and not qualify for the batting title. And making him the co-MVP in 1979 was dumb anyway, he was no way near the MVP of the league he wasn't even the MVP of the Pirates, Dave Parker was.
July 10th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Andy says:
"Kirk Gibson won an MVP without ever making the all-star team. I think there is one other guy to do that too, among those who have played since the inception of the All-Star game....anybody remember who?"
possibilities are
1935 HGreenburg
1956 Newcombe
1978 DParker
1989 RYount
1991 TPendleton
1996 JGonzalez
1999 ChJones
2006 JMorneau
2007 JRollins
July 10th, 2010 at 11:30 am
The two names on the list that really, really stand out are Hal Trosky and Travis Hafner. How Hafner managed to not make the team despite leading the league in OPS+ in 2004 and 2006 (and he was no slouch in 2005, either) is beyond me.
Trosky, I can understand (slighty) - he was en route to a .343-42-162 season in 1936, but I can see how one could get roadblocked by Gehrig and Greenberg.
So who were the Cleveland All-Stars in 2004-2006 (or other AL 1B types) that were blocking Pronk?
July 10th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Pat Burrell was a pretty big snub in 2008. Now before you laugh, you have to remember: heading into the All Star break he had a .979 OPS, which I believe was leading the league (non-Pujols division). He also had 23 HR.
July 10th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I think the question here is, Who other than Gibson won an MVP without EVER making an All-Star team. I'm guessing that all of the guys in reply #7 made an All-Star team at some point in their career.
I know that Jake Westbrook was a Cleveland All-Star in 2004 because, I must confess, like Danny Graves and a few others, he is a player I had never heard of before he got chosen for the team. I'd have to look up who was selected in 2005 and 2006.
July 11th, 2010 at 7:12 am
right, DD. I mean that Gibson never made an All-Star team in his entire career.
July 11th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
#9 -- and he had even caught a couple fly balls!