Card of the Week: 1984 Topps #705 NL Active Stolen Base Leaders
Posted by Andy on June 26, 2010
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Ahh, the 1984 Topps set. This one is pretty well-liked by many collectors. As Night Owl has pointed out, the design is a fairly straightforward evolution of the successful 1983 set. (He also ranks it as the 8th best set of the 30-some main sets produced in the 1980s by Topps, Fleer, Donruss, Score, and Upper Deck.) Ben Henry of The Baseball Card Blog puts both 1984 Topps and 1984 Topps Traded in his top 30 sets of the 1980s (his list includes 53 sets.) Ben includes a nice writeup of the set on that post.
The card I chose, NL Active Stolen Base Leaders, isn't terribly representative of the set since it's a multi-player card from a small subset. Click those links above to see examples of more traditional cards from the set. I picked this particular card because of the three intriguing players featured.
Let's start with Joe Morgan. This the only Morgan card I've ever seen that shows him in the pinstriped home Phillies uniform. (I'm tempted to count the 1984 Fleer "Reds reunited card".) Morgan spent just one year with the Phillies and, despite a .230 batting average still had a 116 OPS+ and 3.4 WAR.
A stat like WAR really helps show just how incredible Morgan was at his peak. Most players never even sniff a 10.0 WAR season but Morgan had 3 of them (1972, and of course the incredible seasons of 1975 and 1976.) In those 2 middle years of 1973 and 1974 he managed WARs of "only" 9.9 and 9.1.
Check out Morgan's overall lead in WAR from 1972 to 1976:
Rk | Player | WAR/pos | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS | Pos | Tm | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Joe Morgan | 51.0 | 28-32 | 742 | 3257 | 2610 | 565 | 792 | 146 | 20 | 108 | 427 | 592 | 267 | 310 | 63 | .303 | .431 | .499 | .930 | *4 | CIN |
2 | Rod Carew | 33.2 | 26-30 | 743 | 3242 | 2854 | 431 | 983 | 134 | 38 | 32 | 338 | 310 | 256 | 175 | 69 | .344 | .407 | .452 | .858 | *43/D | MIN |
3 | Cesar Cedeno | 32.5 | 21-25 | 719 | 3100 | 2769 | 466 | 826 | 160 | 23 | 104 | 400 | 278 | 347 | 276 | 85 | .298 | .365 | .485 | .850 | *8 | HOU |
4 | Johnny Bench | 32.1 | 24-28 | 736 | 3168 | 2711 | 423 | 719 | 140 | 9 | 142 | 542 | 409 | 460 | 39 | 13 | .265 | .359 | .481 | .840 | *2/9537 | CIN |
5 | Bobby Grich | 32.0 | 23-27 | 749 | 3205 | 2665 | 414 | 701 | 136 | 24 | 69 | 293 | 443 | 491 | 75 | 42 | .263 | .374 | .410 | .784 | *4/635D | BAL |
6 | Reggie Jackson | 31.8 | 26-30 | 725 | 3032 | 2635 | 436 | 724 | 144 | 10 | 149 | 480 | 342 | 582 | 101 | 36 | .275 | .361 | .507 | .867 | *98/D | OAK-BAL |
7 | Pete Rose | 31.5 | 31-35 | 801 | 3774 | 3304 | 574 | 1038 | 201 | 36 | 31 | 309 | 419 | 246 | 31 | 20 | .314 | .396 | .425 | .821 | *75/9 | CIN |
8 | Mike Schmidt | 28.0 | 22-26 | 625 | 2548 | 2115 | 358 | 532 | 104 | 14 | 131 | 373 | 374 | 618 | 74 | 35 | .252 | .369 | .500 | .869 | *5/643 | PHI |
9 | Sal Bando | 26.8 | 28-32 | 778 | 3221 | 2737 | 384 | 678 | 115 | 11 | 108 | 440 | 409 | 372 | 36 | 13 | .248 | .348 | .416 | .764 | *5/6D4 | OAK |
10 | Jim Wynn | 25.3 | 30-34 | 712 | 3002 | 2419 | 466 | 594 | 95 | 13 | 111 | 377 | 539 | 493 | 72 | 42 | .246 | .381 | .433 | .814 | 897 | HOU-LAD-ATL |
That, my friends, is what we call a blowout. Incidentally, he has just as big a lead when looking at just Batting Runs, too.
Two other things of note about that list above:
- With 3 players in the top 7, the Reds should have been called the Big WAR Machine.
- Check out who's at number 3...our next subject.
Cesar Cedeno might be the most underrated player in the last 40 years. A lot of people have never even heard of the guy, which is almost inexplicable. Cedeno came up with the Astros fairly close to the time when they traded Morgan away to Cincinnati. Interestingly, Cedeno later went to the Reds a couple of years after Morgan left there, too.
Cedeno's peak was at nearly the exact same time as Morgan's, and as you can see above he racked up the 3rd most WAR in all of MLB from 1972-1976.
Here are the leaders (1901-present) for career WAR among centerfielders (minimum half career games in CF):
Rk | Player | WAR/pos | From | To | Age |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Ty Cobb | 159.4 | 1905 | 1928 | 18-41 |
2 | Willie Mays | 154.7 | 1951 | 1973 | 20-42 |
3 | Tris Speaker | 133.0 | 1907 | 1928 | 19-40 |
4 | Mickey Mantle | 120.2 | 1951 | 1968 | 19-36 |
5 | Joe DiMaggio | 83.6 | 1936 | 1951 | 21-36 |
6 | Ken Griffey | 78.4 | 1989 | 2010 | 19-40 |
7 | Duke Snider | 67.5 | 1947 | 1964 | 20-37 |
8 | Jim Edmonds | 67.2 | 1993 | 2010 | 23-40 |
9 | Kenny Lofton | 65.3 | 1991 | 2007 | 24-40 |
10 | Jim Wynn | 59.8 | 1963 | 1977 | 21-35 |
11 | Andruw Jones | 58.7 | 1996 | 2010 | 19-33 |
12 | Richie Ashburn | 58.0 | 1948 | 1962 | 21-35 |
13 | Willie Davis | 57.2 | 1960 | 1979 | 20-39 |
14 | Carlos Beltran | 54.7 | 1998 | 2009 | 21-32 |
15 | Cesar Cedeno | 52.2 | 1970 | 1986 | 19-35 |
Cedeno's 15th all-time, ahead of Bernie Williams, Johnny Damon, Ellis Burks, Vada Pinson, Fred Lynn, Kirby Puckett, Eric Davis and anybody else you don't see above. His 1972 seasons ranks as one of the 10 best by a centerfielder from the last 40 years based on batting runs above replacement:
Rk | Player | Rbat | Year | Tm | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | Pos | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Bobby Murcer | 58 | 1971 | NYY | 146 | 624 | 529 | 94 | 175 | 25 | 6 | 25 | 94 | 91 | 60 | .331 | .427 | .543 | .969 | *8 |
2 | Fred Lynn | 56 | 1979 | BOS | 147 | 622 | 531 | 116 | 177 | 42 | 1 | 39 | 122 | 82 | 79 | .333 | .423 | .637 | 1.059 | *8/D |
3 | Jim Edmonds | 54 | 2004 | STL | 153 | 612 | 498 | 102 | 150 | 38 | 3 | 42 | 111 | 101 | 150 | .301 | .418 | .643 | 1.061 | *8/D3 |
4 | Bernie Williams | 54 | 1998 | NYY | 128 | 578 | 499 | 101 | 169 | 30 | 5 | 26 | 97 | 74 | 81 | .339 | .422 | .575 | .997 | *8/D |
5 | Ken Griffey | 54 | 1997 | SEA | 157 | 704 | 608 | 125 | 185 | 34 | 3 | 56 | 147 | 76 | 121 | .304 | .382 | .646 | 1.028 | *8/D7 |
6 | Brady Anderson | 53 | 1996 | BAL | 149 | 687 | 579 | 117 | 172 | 37 | 5 | 50 | 110 | 76 | 106 | .297 | .396 | .637 | 1.034 | *8/D |
7 | Ken Griffey | 53 | 1993 | SEA | 156 | 691 | 582 | 113 | 180 | 38 | 3 | 45 | 109 | 96 | 91 | .309 | .408 | .617 | 1.025 | *8D/3 |
8 | Rickey Henderson | 49 | 1985 | NYY | 143 | 654 | 547 | 146 | 172 | 28 | 5 | 24 | 72 | 99 | 65 | .314 | .419 | .516 | .934 | *8/7D |
9 | Cesar Cedeno | 49 | 1972 | HOU | 139 | 625 | 559 | 103 | 179 | 39 | 8 | 22 | 82 | 56 | 62 | .320 | .385 | .537 | .921 | *8 |
10 | Brian Giles | 47 | 1999 | PIT | 141 | 627 | 521 | 109 | 164 | 33 | 3 | 39 | 115 | 95 | 80 | .315 | .418 | .614 | 1.032 | *89/7D |
11 | Jim Wynn | 47 | 1974 | LAD | 150 | 656 | 535 | 104 | 145 | 17 | 4 | 32 | 108 | 108 | 104 | .271 | .387 | .497 | .884 | *8 |
I've limited my discussion of Cedeno to a couple of all-encompassing stats but I encourage you to look more at his career and get to know this relatively anonymous guy who was once a major star player.
Larry Bowa, meanwhile is at the other end of the spectrum, so to speak.
Since 1901, Bowa has the worst batting runs above replacement in all of MLB:
Rk | Player | Rbat | From | To | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | SB | CS | Pos | Tm | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Larry Bowa | -307 | 1970 | 1985 | 24-39 | 2247 | 9103 | 8418 | 987 | 2191 | 262 | 99 | 15 | 525 | 474 | 569 | 318 | 105 | .260 | .300 | .320 | .620 | *6/4 | PHI-CHC-TOT |
2 | Alfredo Griffin | -306 | 1976 | 1993 | 18-35 | 1962 | 7330 | 6780 | 759 | 1688 | 245 | 78 | 24 | 527 | 338 | 664 | 192 | 134 | .249 | .285 | .319 | .604 | *6/45 | CLE-TOR-OAK-LAD |
3 | Ozzie Guillen | -294 | 1985 | 2000 | 21-36 | 1993 | 7133 | 6686 | 773 | 1764 | 275 | 69 | 28 | 619 | 239 | 511 | 169 | 108 | .264 | .287 | .338 | .626 | *6/5347 | CHW-TOT-ATL-TBD |
4 | Bill Bergen | -291 | 1901 | 1911 | 23-33 | 947 | 3228 | 3028 | 138 | 516 | 45 | 21 | 2 | 193 | 88 | 81 | 23 | 0 | .170 | .194 | .201 | .395 | *2/3 | CIN-BRO |
5 | Tommy Thevenow | -290 | 1924 | 1938 | 20-34 | 1229 | 4484 | 4164 | 380 | 1030 | 124 | 32 | 2 | 456 | 210 | 222 | 23 | 3 | .247 | .285 | .294 | .579 | *645/3 | STL-PHI-PIT-CIN-BSN |
6 | Ed Brinkman | -268 | 1961 | 1975 | 19-33 | 1846 | 6640 | 6045 | 550 | 1355 | 201 | 38 | 60 | 461 | 444 | 845 | 30 | 35 | .224 | .280 | .300 | .580 | *6/547 | WSA-DET-TOT |
7 | Ski Melillo | -250 | 1926 | 1937 | 26-37 | 1377 | 5536 | 5063 | 590 | 1316 | 210 | 64 | 22 | 548 | 327 | 306 | 69 | 64 | .260 | .306 | .340 | .646 | *4/56 | SLB-TOT-BOS |
8 | Don Kessinger | -249 | 1964 | 1979 | 21-36 | 2078 | 8529 | 7651 | 899 | 1931 | 254 | 80 | 14 | 527 | 684 | 759 | 100 | 85 | .252 | .314 | .312 | .626 | *6/453 | CHC-STL-TOT-CHW |
9 | Mark Belanger | -248 | 1965 | 1982 | 21-38 | 2016 | 6602 | 5784 | 676 | 1316 | 175 | 33 | 20 | 389 | 576 | 839 | 167 | 75 | .228 | .300 | .280 | .580 | *6/45 | BAL-LAD |
10 | Everett Scott | -248 | 1914 | 1926 | 21-33 | 1654 | 6373 | 5837 | 552 | 1455 | 208 | 58 | 20 | 551 | 243 | 282 | 69 | 60 | .249 | .281 | .315 | .596 | *6/54 | BOS-NYY-TOT |
Now, this shouldn't be misconstrued to mean that Bowa was the worst hitter in the big leagues. Clearly, there were many, many guys far worse than Bowa who were so bad that they didn't get enough playing time to amass such a big negative number. Bowa was, perhaps, the worst hitter among players good enough to deserve to play every day for a whole bunch of years. Just don't forget that he was good enough to play every day for a whole bunch of years.
Bowa's overall runs above replacement (RAR) for his career was +198, so he made up for his offensive deficiencies by being a really good defensive player at the most important defensive position (SS).
Since we're at the end of the post, let me just comment on the back of the card a little bit. I always like this dark blue back. Topps used very similar designs for all of the backs of their 1980s sets, but this one used by far the boldest colors.
It's amazing that Rickey Henderson, already a star in 1984, doesn't appear on the lists on the back of the card. These days, he's on the top of the all-time stolen base list.
June 26th, 2010 at 8:49 am
Henderson played in the AL. Had he been playing in the NL that year, he would have been on the *front* of that card, as he was already ahead of Larry Bowa.
Here are the MLB Active SB leaders after 1983:
681 - Joe Morgan
649 - Bert Campernaris
516 - Cesar Cedeno
468 - Davey Lopes
449 - Omar Moreno
427 - Rickey Henderson
346 - Willie Wilson
344 - Rod Carew
341 - Amos Otis
314 - Julio Cruz (lots of cruz's... its "cruzju01")
303 - Larry Bowa
276 - Don Baylor
272 - Jose Cruz ("cruzjo01")
263 - Dave Concepcion
262 - Mickey Rivers
253 - Dave Collins
246 - Tim Raines
243 - Al Bumbry
242 - Gene Richards
241 - Garry Maddox
225 - Claudell Washington
223 - Miguel Dionne
... which brings us to the end of the list on the back of that card. Surprised to see so many AL-ers (though some had been traded there (Lopes))
June 26th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Awesome card. I have to say tho... it's really not surprising Rickey wasn't in the list yet. He'd only been playing since late '79 & one of his seasons was strike shortened. So, for him to make it onto the list for the card, he would have had to total 681+ steals thru 1983. That's basically 4 full seasons to get nearly 700 stolen bases. Impossible.
Cedeno has a very cool name on top of being awesome
June 26th, 2010 at 9:11 am
So dumb of me regarding Henderson and AL vs NL.
June 26th, 2010 at 9:18 am
After 1983 Henderson had 423 SB. I had expected him to be on that list on the left because I didn't realize that one was NL only.
June 26th, 2010 at 9:35 am
I used a script to create the table in @1, but its turns out that bb-ref does active career leaders for any season really easily with the "Cumulative Batting" pages:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/1983-cumulative-batting.shtml
Just sort the SB column.
Cool feature.
June 26th, 2010 at 9:37 am
The one player on the DavidRF list I feel was the MOST underrated was Bert Campaneris -- an excellent shortstop, base-stealer deluxe, power hitter {one year he nailed about 22, I believe}, and true "leader by example". Plus, anyone who could spend a majority of his productive years toiling for Charley O. should at least get a prominent mention in these blogs -- if not a few votes for sainthood.
June 26th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Another underrated player that appears on these lists (as well as in the post above at:Oh, To Be Young(?) In The 1960’s) is Jimmy Wynn. Morgan, Cedeno and Wynn were all developed in the Colt 45s/Astros system in the 60s (also Rusty Staub, Larry Dierker, Bob Watson, John Mayberry). Lots of talent came through that system that just never got put together at the big league level...to the eternal frustration of their fans.
June 26th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Having been a young adult during Cedeno's 1972-1976 period (hard to believe that I'll be 58 on my next birthday), although in an American League market, I do remember his accomplishments well. What I also remember, although vaguely, is that Cedeno was for a while a suspect in a murder back home in the Dominican Republic, but he was eventually cleared of it. This may have served to cause some folks to steer clear of giving him the recognition he deserved.
Back when there were both a Monday night and a Saturday afternoon game of the week on NBC, when the Astros were playing at home at those times, theirs was often the backup game shown if the primary game was rained out and also shown in the markets of the teams in the primary game (unlike Fox's NFL-like strategy of preferring to show viewers their hometown teams), since they were not likely to be rained out in the Astrodome, which was the only domed stadium at the time. So I got to see Cedeno and his Houston teammates more than they'd otherwise have shown up on national T.V.
June 26th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Billy Hamilton's page on this site says he had 914 SB, but the card above says 937. Where did the extra 23 stolen bases come from?
June 28th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
I've gotten myself in trouble on this subject before with Vizquel, but I can't concur with the statement, "Bowa was, perhaps, the worst hitter among players good enough to deserve to play every day for a whole bunch of years". I get the point, but I still considered Bowa to be a very capable offensive player for the same reasons as Vizquel...a lot of hits, enough XBH (though with his legs, rather than from driving the ball), great base-running, and great contact hitter who made his outs count (very underrated statistic...a ground ball to the left side that advances a runner is nothing but an out on the stat sheet, but it can win games).
Separately, my all-time favorite, Carew, who is second on that '72-'76 WAR list, would certainly have scored even better if the years were '73-'77. Can the list be re-done with the best totals from any five-year period?
June 30th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
I have an idea for next Card of the Week.
Billy Ripken 1989, the infamous "F*** Face" card.