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Counting When It Didn’t Count

Posted by Steve Lombardi on June 22, 2010

Some All-Star fun via Baseball-Reference.com's Play Index Batting Game Finder - batters with 6+ PA in a single All-Star Game:

Rk Player Date Tm Lg Opp Rslt PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF ROE GDP SB CS WPA RE24 aLI BOP Pos. Summary
1 Dave Winfield 1987-07-14 NYY AL NLS L 0-2 6 5 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.026   1.643 5 RF LF
2 Carl Yastrzemski 1970-07-14 BOS AL NLS L 4-5 6 6 1 4 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.183   1.338 2 CF 1B
3 Luis Aparicio 1970-07-14 CHW AL NLS L 4-5 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.161   1.028 1 SS
4 Hank Aaron 1967-07-11 ATL NL ALS W 2-1 6 6 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 -0.196   1.847 3 CF LF
5 Orlando Cepeda 1967-07-11 STL NL ALS W 2-1 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 -0.263   1.725 4 1B
6 Roberto Clemente 1967-07-11 PIT NL ALS W 2-1 6 6 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.208   1.737 2 RF
7 Tony Conigliaro 1967-07-11 BOS AL NLS L 1-2 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.210   1.702 5 RF
8 Bill Freehan 1967-07-11 DET AL NLS L 1-2 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 -0.276   2.452 7 C
9 Harmon Killebrew 1967-07-11 MIN AL NLS L 1-2 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.243   1.873 4 1B
10 Tony Oliva 1967-07-11 MIN AL NLS L 1-2 6 6 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 -0.014   1.273 3 CF
11 Brooks Robinson 1967-07-11 BAL AL NLS L 1-2 6 6 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.028   1.547 1 3B
12 Carl Yastrzemski 1967-07-11 BOS AL NLS L 1-2 6 4 0 3 1 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.269   1.477 6 LF
13 Mickey Vernon 1955-07-12 WSH AL NLS L 5-6 6 5 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.107   1.100 7 1B
14 Red Schoendienst 1955-07-12 STL NL ALS W 6-5 6 6 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.039   1.107 1 2B
15 Mickey Mantle 1955-07-12 NYY AL NLS L 5-6 6 6 1 2 0 0 1 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.100   1.638 4 CF
16 Al Kaline 1955-07-12 DET AL NLS L 5-6 6 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.036   1.007 6 RF
17 Yogi Berra 1955-07-12 NYY AL NLS L 5-6 6 6 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 -0.276   1.835 5 C
18 Roy Campanella 1950-07-11 BRO NL ALS W 4-3 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.249   1.708 7 C
19 Larry Doby 1950-07-11 CLE AL NLS L 3-4 6 6 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.013   1.448 2 CF
20 Willie Jones 1950-07-11 PHI NL ALS W 4-3 7 7 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 -0.202   1.557 1 3B
21 George Kell 1950-07-11 DET AL NLS L 3-4 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.162   1.593 3 3B
22 Ralph Kiner 1950-07-11 PIT NL ALS W 4-3 6 6 1 2 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.319   1.652 2 LF
23 Stan Musial 1950-07-11 STL NL ALS W 4-3 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.195   1.967 3 1B
24 Phil Rizzuto 1950-07-11 NYY AL NLS L 3-4 6 6 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -0.061   1.542 1 SS
25 Pee Wee Reese 1949-07-12 BRO NL ALS L 7-11 6 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 -0.162   1.318 1 SS
26 Charlie Gehringer 1934-07-10 DET AL NLS W 9-7 6 3 0 2 0 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.046   .902 1 2B
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
Generated 6/22/2010.

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So, you have two neat trivia questions here:

Who was the last player to get 6+ PA in an All-Star Game? Dave Winfield in 1987.

And, who is the only player to get at least 7 PA in an All-Star Game? Willie "Puddin' Head" Jones in 1950.

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10 Responses to “Counting When It Didn’t Count”

  1. Kahuna Tuna Says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    All of the games on Steve's list except 1934 and 1949 went at least 12 innings. It's pretty amazing that the 1967 AL kept six of its eight position-player starters on the field for all 15 innings — think Hank Bauer was serious about upholding his league's prestige?

    In the 2008 All-Star Game, won by the AL 4-3 in 15 innings, six of the mid-game subs for the AL team collected five plate appearances each. No player for the NL team had more than four plate appearances.

  2. Anon Says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Also, who is the only player to get 6 PA's in 2 different AS Games?

    Yaz

  3. Joe Says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Obviously, the way the All-Star Game is played today, this is never going to happen again, unless a game goes 20 innings or whatever. I think we're going in the wrong direction with the All-Star Game. Instead of continuing to expand the rosters to let more and more players in, we should go back to normal 25-man rosters.

    Yes, in any given year there are potentially more than 25 players in each league having excellent seasons, but the All-Star Game is supposed to be about showcasing the best of the best. I'd rather see the top stars play more than be forced to watch them all pulled in the 5th or 6th inning so all the subs can be used.

    Tangent, I know, but they also need to scrap the whole 'All-Star result deciding home field in the World Series' thing. Is there anybody who actually thinks this is a good idea? I know the idea is to make the All-Star Game more meaningful, so the players actually care about the result, but are they really fooling anyone here? It's still an exhibition game.

    Why should an exhibition game in July decide an important aspect of the championship series? Especially when the players who end up deciding that game most likely will have nothing to do with either of the teams who will actually be in the World Series? How difficult would it really be to go with the tried-and-true 'team with the best record gets home field' concept?

    Anyway, ... *stops shaking fist*

  4. XZPUMAZX Says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    Is Yaz's 4 hits the most in a single AS game?

    Something else that made me laugh - all those AB's and most of those guys weren't even helping their team win (- WPA's).

    If your looking for AS gimicks (I'm not, just saying), would anyone be interested in an AS game weekend after the season. Three game series - winning team gets home field advantage in the next year's WS? (MLB will never move it to after the season...too much tradition)

    The world series winner from the previous season takes on the All-Stars from the opposing league?

    Any one else have interesting gimick ideas. (I reiterate I am not for any of these, just loking for interesting ideas)

  5. Kahuna Tuna Says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Is Yaz's 4 hits the most in a single AS game?

    Yes. It's a three-way tie among Yaz, 1970; Ted Williams, 1946; and Joe Medwick, 1937.

  6. Brendan Says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 8:43 pm

    I thought based on the title that this was going to be about games that were cancelled due to rain or some other factor before becoming official. Made me wonder whether anyone has records of games like that, and silly, pointless questions like who had the most home runs washed out by rain-shortened games?

  7. Pat D Says:
    June 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Wow, that brings back memories of my 6-year-old self watching the entire 1987 All Star Game, merely because Winfield never came out of the game. Being that I was 6, and Winfield was my favorite player, I just knew he'd be the one to win the game for the American League.

    Not so much, of course.

    But it is comforting to know that he hit another double and scored a run in his final ASG appearance the following year.

  8. Seapig Says:
    June 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 am

    I like having the All Star Game decide World Series home field. The ASG still resembles a company picnic softball game more than I would like, but making it mean something is a step toward making it the competitive game it used to be. At least we haven't had any more ties.

    And let's not forget that the "tried and true" method of giving home field to the team with the better record has never been used in the World Series, and for good reason. With the teams coming from separate leagues, it's an apples and oranges comparison. It would be as likely to reward a team for playing in the weaker league, as it would to reward the better team.

    I do agree that expanding the rosters is a bad idea. Trying to get 30+ players into the game isn't compatible with playing to win.

  9. tmckelv Says:
    June 23rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm

    I like a lot of the "traditions" (for lack of a better term) such as the 1) Fans voting in the Starters and 2) 1 representative from each team, etc.

    These things have brought about the expansion of the roster over the years (to ensure there are no glaring omissions). I think a good solution would be to have a set number of players (let's say 25 for argument's sake because that was brought up during an earlier post) on the playing roster and then the remainder (7 or so players) that are still technically on the All-Star Team, but can only play if the game goes into extra innings. It would kind of fulfill the best of everyone's needs:
    1) Manager won't have to get everyone in the game,
    2) game would consist of the best of the best (as long as there is no ridiculous fan selection),
    3) players would be available in case of extra innings so no extended pitchers/catchers innings,
    4) each team would still have a rep but now the less deserving would be on the "extra inning squad"

  10. tmckelv Says:
    June 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    More on the 1967 ASG:

    1) Bill Freehan caught all 15 innings for the AL - I guess Bauer was holding Casanova and Etchebarren for in case the game went long (they didn't even pinch hit).

    2) Poor Catfish pitched 5 innings in relief for the loss. Not a big deal obviously - but in recent games they would have rather called a tie than have a pitcher pitch more than 3 innings.

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