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Pitch’ Counts, Of Another Nature

Posted by Steve Lombardi on January 11, 2008

Via Baseball-Reference.com's Play Index Team Pitching Gamelog Finder - Most wins by teams in 2007 where they used 4 pitchers or less in the game.

 Tm  Year Games Link to Individual Games 
 +---+----+-----+-------------------------+ 
 LAA 2007    82 Ind. Games 
 CLE 2007    81 Ind. Games 
 BOS 2007    76 Ind. Games 
 TOR 2007    69 Ind. Games 
 NYY 2007    66 Ind. Games 
 NYM 2007    66 Ind. Games 
 CHC 2007    64 Ind. Games 
 ARI 2007    63 Ind. Games 
 SEA 2007    61 Ind. Games 
 SDP 2007    61 Ind. Games 
 DET 2007    61 Ind. Games 
 PHI 2007    60 Ind. Games 
 LAD 2007    60 Ind. Games 
 MIN 2007    59 Ind. Games 
 COL 2007    58 Ind. Games 
 OAK 2007    57 Ind. Games 
 MIL 2007    54 Ind. Games 
 ATL 2007    53 Ind. Games                   
 HOU 2007    49 Ind. Games 
 CHW 2007    48 Ind. Games 
 STL 2007    47 Ind. Games 
 TEX 2007    46 Ind. Games 
 TBD 2007    46 Ind. Games 
 SFG 2007    46 Ind. Games 
 CIN 2007    46 Ind. Games 
 KCR 2007    45 Ind. Games 
 BAL 2007    43 Ind. Games 
 PIT 2007    42 Ind. Games 
 WSN 2007    34 Ind. Games 
 FLA 2007    30 Ind. Games

And, on the flip-side, here's the most wins by a team, last year, in games where they used 5 pitchers or more:

 Tm  Year Games Link to Individual Games 
+---+----+-----+-------------------------+ 
 FLA 2007    41 Ind. Games 
 WSN 2007    39 Ind. Games 
 COL 2007    32 Ind. Games 
 STL 2007    31 Ind. Games 
 ATL 2007    31 Ind. Games 
 TEX 2007    29 Ind. Games 
 PHI 2007    29 Ind. Games 
 MIL 2007    29 Ind. Games 
 SDP 2007    28 Ind. Games 
 NYY 2007    28 Ind. Games 
 SEA 2007    27 Ind. Games 
 DET 2007    27 Ind. Games 
 ARI 2007    27 Ind. Games 
 PIT 2007    26 Ind. Games 
 CIN 2007    26 Ind. Games 
 BAL 2007    26 Ind. Games 
 SFG 2007    25 Ind. Games 
 KCR 2007    24 Ind. Games 
 HOU 2007    24 Ind. Games 
 CHW 2007    24 Ind. Games 
 NYM 2007    22 Ind. Games 
 LAD 2007    22 Ind. Games 
 CHC 2007    21 Ind. Games 
 TBD 2007    20 Ind. Games 
 MIN 2007    20 Ind. Games 
 BOS 2007    20 Ind. Games 
 OAK 2007    19 Ind. Games 
 CLE 2007    15 Ind. Games 
 TOR 2007    14 Ind. Games 
 LAA 2007    12 Ind. Games

It's pretty clear that the Angels, Indians, Red Sox and Blue Jays got most of their wins in games where they used 4 pitchers or less.  And, it's pretty clear that the Marlins and Nationals got more of their wins in games where they used 5 pitchers or more.

Of course, this does not take into account each team's offense.

Still, it's an interesting slice of data. 

Take a team like the Red Sox - just because they're low on the second list doesn't mean they had a bad pen last year.  They're low on the second list because they're so high on the first list.

However, a team that's low on the first list and high on the second list may be there because they have a deep and effective pen. 

If anyone has some thoughts on the value that can be taken from lists like these, please do share them.  Thanks in advance.

2 Responses to “Pitch’ Counts, Of Another Nature”

  1. Andy Says:

    I discussed some similar stuff a while back, although it didn't have 2007 numbers:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/178

    and

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/190

    What that first post shows is basically that if a team in 2006 used 3 or fewer pitchers, it was more likely to win. As soon as it used a 4th pitcher, it became much more likely to lose, and teams using 5 or more pitchers were more likely to lose.

  2. Steve Lombardi Says:

    Thanks Andy - I had forgotten about your look at this too.