More triples than…
Posted by Andy on November 20, 2009
Of the four types of hit in baseball, triples are by far the rarest. In 2009, there were 949 triples out of 43,524 total hits (2.18%). I went back and calculated historical values for some past years:
1999: 931/45,327 (2.05%)
1989: 868/36,293 (2.39%)
1979: 1,066/37,911 (2.81%)
1969: 849/32,581 (2.61%)
1959: 591/21,636 (2.73%)
1949: 761/22,168 (3.43%)
1939: 916/23,371 (3.92%)
1929: 1,166/24,642 (4.73%)
1919: 1,048/19,624 (5.34%)
1909: 1,002/19,655 (5.10%)
As you can see, triples used to be more than twice as common as they are today. Although many factors are involved, the single-biggest is the much smaller size of ballparks today as compared to back then. These days, outfielders cover a lot less territory and many balls that could have once gone for hits are either caught or go over the fence for homers. A typical triple requires a certain amount of open space on the field where the ball can get to a position in fair territory that's somewhat far away from all of the fielders. That's a lot rarer these days than it used to be.
Anyway, once upon a time, there were lots of guys who had more triples than doubles in a season.
Here are players from the 40-year period 1901-1940 who had more triples in a season than doubles, ranked by triples:
Rk | Player | 3B | 2B | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | AB | R | H | HR | RBI |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Chief Wilson | 36 | 19 | 1912 | 28 | PIT | NL | 152 | 643 | 583 | 80 | 175 | 11 | 95 |
2 | Sam Crawford | 26 | 22 | 1914 | 34 | DET | AL | 157 | 674 | 582 | 74 | 183 | 8 | 104 |
3 | Tom Long | 25 | 21 | 1915 | 25 | STL | NL | 140 | 556 | 507 | 61 | 149 | 2 | 61 |
4 | Sam Crawford | 25 | 23 | 1903 | 23 | DET | AL | 137 | 602 | 550 | 88 | 184 | 4 | 89 |
5 | Jake Daubert | 22 | 15 | 1922 | 38 | CIN | NL | 156 | 700 | 610 | 114 | 205 | 12 | 66 |
6 | Tommy Leach | 22 | 14 | 1902 | 24 | PIT | NL | 135 | 576 | 514 | 97 | 143 | 6 | 85 |
7 | Sam Crawford | 22 | 18 | 1902 | 22 | CIN | NL | 140 | 609 | 555 | 92 | 185 | 3 | 78 |
8 | Vic Saier | 21 | 15 | 1913 | 22 | CHC | NL | 149 | 600 | 519 | 94 | 150 | 14 | 92 |
9 | Bill Keister | 21 | 20 | 1901 | 29 | BLA | AL | 115 | 472 | 442 | 78 | 145 | 2 | 93 |
10 | Les Mann | 19 | 12 | 1915 | 22 | CHI | FL | 135 | 516 | 470 | 74 | 144 | 4 | 58 |
11 | Joe Cassidy | 19 | 12 | 1904 | 21 | WSH | AL | 152 | 616 | 581 | 63 | 140 | 1 | 33 |
12 | Mike Mitchell | 18 | 16 | 1910 | 30 | CIN | NL | 156 | 668 | 583 | 79 | 167 | 5 | 88 |
13 | Hans Lobert | 18 | 17 | 1908 | 26 | CIN | NL | 155 | 650 | 570 | 71 | 167 | 4 | 63 |
14 | Elmer Flick | 18 | 15 | 1907 | 31 | CLE | AL | 147 | 637 | 549 | 80 | 166 | 3 | 58 |
15 | Eddie Collins | 17 | 14 | 1916 | 29 | CHW | AL | 155 | 673 | 545 | 87 | 168 | 0 | 52 |
16 | Braggo Roth | 17 | 10 | 1915 | 22 | TOT | AL | 109 | 450 | 384 | 67 | 103 | 7 | 55 |
17 | Jim Kelly | 17 | 12 | 1915 | 31 | PBS | FL | 148 | 576 | 524 | 68 | 154 | 4 | 50 |
18 | Ray Chapman | 17 | 14 | 1915 | 24 | CLE | AL | 154 | 669 | 570 | 101 | 154 | 3 | 67 |
19 | Tommy Leach | 17 | 16 | 1903 | 25 | PIT | NL | 127 | 561 | 507 | 97 | 151 | 7 | 87 |
20 | Sam Mertes | 17 | 16 | 1901 | 28 | CHW | AL | 137 | 623 | 545 | 94 | 151 | 5 | 98 |
Notice too that all of these players had more triples than homers.
Now here is the same list compiled from the 40 most recent seasons (1970-2009):
Rk | Player | 3B | 2B | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | AB | R | H | HR | RBI |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Lance Johnson | 14 | 11 | 1994 | 30 | CHW | AL | 106 | 443 | 412 | 56 | 114 | 3 | 54 |
2 | Deion Sanders | 14 | 6 | 1992 | 24 | ATL | NL | 97 | 325 | 303 | 54 | 92 | 8 | 28 |
3 | Roger Metzger | 14 | 11 | 1973 | 25 | HOU | NL | 154 | 637 | 580 | 67 | 145 | 1 | 35 |
4 | Larry Bowa | 13 | 11 | 1972 | 26 | PHI | NL | 152 | 633 | 579 | 67 | 145 | 1 | 31 |
5 | Craig Reynolds | 12 | 10 | 1981 | 28 | HOU | NL | 87 | 354 | 323 | 43 | 84 | 4 | 31 |
6 | Luis Alicea | 11 | 9 | 1992 | 26 | STL | NL | 85 | 302 | 265 | 26 | 65 | 2 | 32 |
7 | David Hulse | 10 | 9 | 1993 | 25 | TEX | AL | 114 | 441 | 407 | 71 | 118 | 1 | 29 |
8 | Jorge Orta | 10 | 9 | 1973 | 22 | CHW | AL | 128 | 469 | 425 | 46 | 113 | 6 | 40 |
9 | Luis Polonia | 9 | 7 | 1990 | 26 | TOT | AL | 120 | 436 | 403 | 52 | 135 | 2 | 35 |
10 | Roger Metzger | 9 | 7 | 1975 | 27 | HOU | NL | 127 | 510 | 450 | 54 | 102 | 2 | 26 |
11 | Andres Torres | 8 | 6 | 2009 | 31 | SFG | NL | 75 | 170 | 152 | 30 | 41 | 6 | 23 |
12 | Roger Metzger | 8 | 7 | 1979 | 31 | SFG | NL | 94 | 288 | 259 | 24 | 65 | 0 | 31 |
13 | Scott Bullett | 7 | 5 | 1995 | 26 | CHC | NL | 104 | 164 | 150 | 19 | 41 | 3 | 22 |
14 | Alex Diaz | 7 | 5 | 1994 | 25 | MIL | AL | 79 | 203 | 187 | 17 | 47 | 1 | 17 |
15 | Alex Cole | 7 | 4 | 1992 | 26 | TOT | ML | 105 | 334 | 302 | 44 | 77 | 0 | 15 |
16 | Mike Felder | 7 | 5 | 1987 | 25 | MIL | AL | 108 | 328 | 289 | 48 | 77 | 2 | 31 |
17 | Luis Salazar | 7 | 4 | 1980 | 24 | SDP | NL | 44 | 183 | 169 | 28 | 57 | 1 | 25 |
As might be expect, these guys have much lower totals for extra-base hits and played in many fewer games than their counterparts from about 70 years earlier.
Here are the career leaders (1901-present) for most triples with a fewer number of doubles:
Rk | Player | 3B | 2B | To | From | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | HR | RBI |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Tom Long | 49 | 47 | 1911 | 1917 | 21-27 | 418 | 1612 | 1489 | 148 | 401 | 6 | 140 |
2 | Jim Kelly | 22 | 15 | 1914 | 1918 | 30-34 | 215 | 786 | 714 | 91 | 212 | 4 | 57 |
3 | Frank Shugart | 12 | 9 | 1901 | 1901 | 34-34 | 107 | 455 | 415 | 62 | 104 | 2 | 47 |
4 | Merlin Kopp | 11 | 9 | 1915 | 1919 | 23-27 | 187 | 743 | 630 | 96 | 146 | 1 | 30 |
5 | Carlos Bernier | 8 | 7 | 1953 | 1953 | 26-26 | 105 | 366 | 310 | 48 | 66 | 3 | 31 |
6 | Fern Bell | 8 | 5 | 1939 | 1940 | 26-27 | 89 | 313 | 265 | 44 | 75 | 2 | 35 |
7 | Stu Clarke | 8 | 5 | 1929 | 1930 | 23-24 | 61 | 215 | 187 | 22 | 51 | 2 | 23 |
8 | Jack McCandless | 8 | 6 | 1914 | 1915 | 23-24 | 128 | 495 | 437 | 52 | 95 | 5 | 35 |
9 | Patrick Newnam | 8 | 7 | 1910 | 1911 | 29-30 | 123 | 500 | 446 | 56 | 95 | 2 | 31 |
10 | Carmen Hill | 7 | 3 | 1915 | 1930 | 19-34 | 148 | 298 | 277 | 18 | 53 | 0 | 28 |
11 | George Twombly | 7 | 1 | 1914 | 1919 | 22-27 | 150 | 479 | 417 | 35 | 88 | 0 | 33 |
12 | Dutch Sterrett | 7 | 4 | 1912 | 1913 | 22-23 | 87 | 289 | 265 | 30 | 67 | 1 | 35 |
As it turns out, #3 Frank Shugart is a bogus entry because most of his career came before 1901 and he finished with 79 career triples and 110 career doubles.
Among active players, the only guys with more triples than doubles are as follows:
Rk | Player | 3B | 2B | To | From | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | HR | RBI |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Michael Saunders | 3 | 1 | 2009 | 2009 | 22-22 | 46 | 129 | 122 | 13 | 27 | 0 | 4 |
2 | Brent Clevlen | 2 | 1 | 2006 | 2008 | 22-24 | 55 | 80 | 73 | 15 | 17 | 3 | 7 |
3 | Joel Guzman | 2 | 1 | 2006 | 2007 | 21-22 | 24 | 62 | 56 | 7 | 13 | 0 | 7 |
4 | Ramon Nivar | 2 | 1 | 2003 | 2005 | 23-25 | 42 | 133 | 121 | 13 | 27 | 0 | 12 |
5 | Doug Brocail | 1 | 0 | 1992 | 2009 | 25-42 | 637 | 85 | 69 | 9 | 12 | 0 | 1 |
6 | Wilkin Ramirez | 1 | 0 | 2009 | 2009 | 23-23 | 15 | 13 | 11 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 3 |
7 | Jonathan Van Ever | 1 | 0 | 2008 | 2009 | 28-29 | 18 | 31 | 28 | 1 | 8 | 1 | 8 |
8 | Nathan Haynes | 1 | 0 | 2007 | 2008 | 27-28 | 60 | 95 | 89 | 13 | 22 | 0 | 4 |
9 | Jason Perry | 1 | 0 | 2008 | 2008 | 27-27 | 4 | 17 | 17 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
10 | Robinson Tejeda | 1 | 0 | 2005 | 2008 | 23-26 | 88 | 32 | 25 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
11 | Chris Roberson | 1 | 0 | 2006 | 2007 | 26-27 | 85 | 72 | 69 | 15 | 16 | 0 | 2 |
Slim pickings there, folks. And before anybody asks, B-R.com lists guys as active until they officially announce their retirement.
Among players with more career triples than homers, the leaders 1901-present include many of the greatest players of the early 20th century:
Rk | Player | 3B | HR | To | From | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | RBI |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Ty Cobb | 295 | 117 | 1905 | 1928 | 18-41 | 3035 | 13072 | 11434 | 2246 | 4189 | 724 | 1937 |
2 | Sam Crawford | 287 | 89 | 1901 | 1917 | 21-37 | 2385 | 10037 | 9054 | 1298 | 2821 | 440 | 1446 |
3 | Tris Speaker | 222 | 117 | 1907 | 1928 | 19-40 | 2789 | 11988 | 10195 | 1882 | 3514 | 792 | 1529 |
4 | Honus Wagner | 210 | 78 | 1901 | 1917 | 27-43 | 2298 | 9640 | 8507 | 1414 | 2766 | 506 | 1375 |
5 | Paul Waner | 191 | 113 | 1926 | 1945 | 23-42 | 2549 | 10762 | 9459 | 1627 | 3152 | 605 | 1309 |
6 | Eddie Collins | 187 | 47 | 1906 | 1930 | 19-43 | 2826 | 12037 | 9949 | 1821 | 3315 | 438 | 1300 |
7 | Sam Rice | 184 | 34 | 1915 | 1934 | 25-44 | 2404 | 10246 | 9269 | 1514 | 2987 | 498 | 1078 |
8 | Edd Roush | 182 | 68 | 1913 | 1931 | 20-38 | 1967 | 8156 | 7363 | 1099 | 2376 | 339 | 981 |
9 | Ed Konetchy | 182 | 74 | 1907 | 1921 | 21-35 | 2085 | 8664 | 7649 | 972 | 2150 | 344 | 992 |
10 | Rabbit Maranville | 177 | 28 | 1912 | 1935 | 20-43 | 2670 | 11256 | 10078 | 1255 | 2605 | 380 | 884 |
11 | Zack Wheat | 172 | 132 | 1909 | 1927 | 21-39 | 2410 | 9996 | 9106 | 1289 | 2884 | 476 | 1248 |
12 | Joe Jackson | 168 | 54 | 1908 | 1920 | 18-30 | 1332 | 5690 | 4981 | 873 | 1772 | 307 | 785 |
13 | Sherry Magee | 166 | 83 | 1904 | 1919 | 19-34 | 2087 | 8546 | 7441 | 1112 | 2169 | 425 | 1176 |
14 | Jake Daubert | 165 | 56 | 1910 | 1924 | 26-40 | 2014 | 8742 | 7673 | 1117 | 2326 | 250 | 722 |
15 | Pie Traynor | 164 | 58 | 1920 | 1937 | 21-38 | 1941 | 8293 | 7559 | 1183 | 2416 | 371 | 1273 |
16 | George Sisler | 164 | 102 | 1915 | 1930 | 22-37 | 2055 | 9013 | 8267 | 1284 | 2812 | 425 | 1175 |
17 | Tommy Leach | 164 | 57 | 1901 | 1918 | 23-40 | 1996 | 8401 | 7383 | 1260 | 1991 | 255 | 737 |
18 | Heinie Manush | 160 | 110 | 1923 | 1939 | 21-37 | 2008 | 8416 | 7654 | 1287 | 2524 | 491 | 1183 |
19 | Harry Hooper | 160 | 75 | 1909 | 1925 | 21-37 | 2309 | 10244 | 8785 | 1429 | 2466 | 389 | 817 |
20 | Joe Judge | 159 | 71 | 1915 | 1934 | 21-40 | 2171 | 9171 | 7898 | 1184 | 2352 | 433 | 1034 |
Even the list of leaders among active players is somewhat impressive:
Rk | Player | 3B | HR | To | From | Age | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | RBI |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Carl Crawford | 92 | 85 | 2002 | 2009 | 20-27 | 1081 | 4726 | 4392 | 655 | 1296 | 185 | 502 |
2 | Cristian Guzman | 85 | 60 | 1999 | 2009 | 21-31 | 1302 | 5389 | 5017 | 679 | 1362 | 226 | 441 |
3 | Juan Pierre | 79 | 13 | 2000 | 2009 | 22-31 | 1433 | 6064 | 5533 | 804 | 1663 | 199 | 387 |
4 | Jose Reyes | 73 | 63 | 2003 | 2009 | 20-26 | 791 | 3651 | 3353 | 551 | 960 | 162 | 325 |
5 | Luis Castillo | 57 | 28 | 1996 | 2009 | 20-33 | 1634 | 7172 | 6263 | 973 | 1831 | 190 | 426 |
6 | Chone Figgins | 53 | 31 | 2002 | 2009 | 24-31 | 936 | 4075 | 3585 | 596 | 1045 | 148 | 341 |
7 | Dave Roberts | 53 | 23 | 1999 | 2008 | 27-36 | 832 | 3090 | 2707 | 437 | 721 | 95 | 213 |
8 | Cesar Izturis | 31 | 14 | 2001 | 2009 | 21-29 | 1017 | 3818 | 3552 | 376 | 921 | 149 | 261 |
9 | Miguel Cairo | 30 | 28 | 1996 | 2009 | 22-35 | 1227 | 3734 | 3361 | 432 | 893 | 166 | 320 |
10 | Endy Chavez | 29 | 19 | 2001 | 2009 | 23-31 | 827 | 2456 | 2237 | 289 | 605 | 101 | 190 |
11 | Akinori Iwamura | 21 | 14 | 2007 | 2009 | 28-30 | 344 | 1526 | 1349 | 201 | 379 | 67 | 104 |
12 | Cory Sullivan | 21 | 10 | 2005 | 2009 | 25-29 | 419 | 1201 | 1063 | 150 | 293 | 49 | 93 |
13 | Nick Punto | 20 | 12 | 2001 | 2009 | 23-31 | 736 | 2530 | 2216 | 301 | 550 | 93 | 178 |
14 | Alfredo Amezaga | 19 | 12 | 2002 | 2009 | 24-31 | 544 | 1483 | 1331 | 167 | 334 | 46 | 106 |
15 | Michael Bourn | 19 | 9 | 2006 | 2009 | 23-26 | 417 | 1336 | 1200 | 185 | 314 | 40 | 70 |
16 | Jamey Carroll | 19 | 12 | 2002 | 2009 | 28-35 | 786 | 2515 | 2171 | 369 | 593 | 92 | 174 |
17 | Abraham Nunez | 19 | 18 | 1997 | 2008 | 21-32 | 1030 | 2804 | 2486 | 286 | 601 | 88 | 209 |
18 | Denard Span | 17 | 14 | 2008 | 2009 | 24-25 | 238 | 1087 | 925 | 167 | 282 | 32 | 115 |
19 | Erick Aybar | 16 | 9 | 2006 | 2009 | 22-25 | 348 | 1182 | 1084 | 146 | 309 | 47 | 118 |
20 | Angel Pagan | 16 | 15 | 2006 | 2009 | 24-27 | 267 | 829 | 752 | 115 | 211 | 45 | 84 |
I'm inclined to guess that Carl Crawford will eventually fall off this list. Generally speaking, he's hit fewer triples in recent seasons while his homers have remained fairly constant. (That's a very rough analysis.) If he loses a little speed in the coming years, which is likely, I'd expect his triples to drop even more. However, I think Juan Pierre is safe 🙂
As a final tidbit, there are six players in baseball history to finish their career with more than 1 triple, and also more triples than singles. Limb McKenry leads the way with 7 career hits that included 4 triples. It was done most recently by Gary Moore of the 1970 Dodgers. Moore had 3 career hits: a single and two triples.
November 20th, 2009 at 11:43 am
One of the things that has always annoyed me about Tim McCarver is his claim that the decline in triples is because modern players don't run hard out of the box. Meanwhile, he never seemed to notice how this conflicts with the fact that Derek Jeter (whom McCarver LOVES) is (was) fast, always runs hard, and still only hits about 3 triples a year.
All those guys on the pre-1940 list above are actually pre-1923.
November 20th, 2009 at 11:46 am
JT, true, re: 1923--but the search did go up to 1940. It was a totally arbitrary search mainly for demonstration purposes.
The truth in today's game is that with more runs being scored, 3rd base is a lot less important. Since most runners can score from 2nd or 3rd on the majority of hits, the extra base doesn't mean a ton in a game, especially since each individual run means less when teams average 5 runs than when they average 3. There is less incentive to get to 3rd base.
I suspect that the average player today DOES run less hard than the average player from 50 or 75 years ago. More significantly, though, I would guess that the average player is also a bit slower, and that throwing arms on outfielders are a little stronger. Plus, outfielders are throwing a shorter distance on average. These all favor fewer triples.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Actually I thought it was interesting that the 1940 list only showed players prior to '23, since that is about the time when home run surpassed the triple as the signature of a big power hitter.
November 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
I never actually thought about the possibility of more triples than home runs, I guess in today's game home runs are just way too common. Unless it's a game winning or game tying homerun, I actually prefer to watch a guy leg out a triple.
November 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 am
I agree with you #4, the average triple has become much more exciting than the average home run, thanks to two simple factors: 1) it's rarity and 2) the fact that it involves a player actually running hard for an extended period of time.