Beckett’s bad start
Posted by Andy on August 26, 2009
Josh Beckett recently had a bad (and very unusual) start in which he pitched 8 innings but allowed 8 earned runs. Here are the starts since 1980 in which the pitcher has gone at least 8 but also allowed at least 8 runs:
Cnt Player Date Tm Opp GmReslt App,Dec IP H R ER BB SO HR Pit Str GmSc IR IS BF AB 2B 3B IBB HBP SH SF GDP SB CS Pk BK WP ERA +----+-----------------+-------------+---+----+-------+---------+----+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+---+----+--+--+--+--+--+--+---+---+--+--+---+--+--+--+--+--+------+ 1 Josh Beckett 2009-08-23 BOS NYY L 4-8 GS-8 ,L 8 9 8 8 0 5 5 120 87 37 33 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.00 2 Carlos Silva 2006-04-18 MIN LAA L 2-8 GS-9 ,L 8.2 12 8 8 1 1 1 109 78 28 37 35 3 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 8.31 3 Paul Byrd 2002-09-09 KCR CHW L 6-10 GS-8 ,L 8 10 10 10 2 3 4 112 74 23 35 31 3 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 11.25 4 Randy Johnson 1998-07-05 SEA @TEX L 4-8 CG 8 ,L 8 9 8 8 2 12 3 141 84 42 35 33 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 9.00 5 Pat Hentgen 1997-06-25 TOR BOS L 12-13 GS-8 ,L 8 13 11 11 0 4 5 76 47 16 38 37 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 12.38 6 Pat Hentgen 1996-08-07 TOR @BOS L 0-8 CG 8 ,L 8 9 8 8 1 5 3 103 69 36 34 31 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 9.00 7 Ben McDonald 1992-06-21 BAL NYY L 2-8 GS-9 ,L 8.2 6 8 8 4 7 4 136 76 43 36 32 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8.31 8 Mark Williamson 1988-05-25 BAL @OAK L 1-8 CG 8 ,L 8 9 8 8 2 7 2 129 84 37 35 32 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.00 9 Mike Morgan 1987-04-10 SEA MIN L 1-8 GS-8 ,L 8 11 8 8 0 3 3 31 33 32 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 9.00 10 Floyd Youmans 1986-10-02 MON NYM L 2-8 CG 9 ,L 9 8 8 8 3 10 2 46 36 33 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 8.00 11 Fernando Valenzue 1986-05-09 LAD @MON L 4-8 CG 8 ,L 8 11 8 8 1 6 3 33 35 33 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 9.00 12 Britt Burns 1985-07-13 CHW @BAL W 10-8 CG 9 ,W 9 8 8 8 5 4 3 38 37 32 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 8.00 13 Chris Codiroli 1983-06-12(2) OAK CHW L 1-8 CG 9 ,L 9 11 8 8 4 4 0 33 42 38 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8.00 14 Jack Morris 1981-09-25 DET MIL L 6-8 GS-9 ,L 8.2 9 8 8 4 7 3 37 38 33 2 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 8.31 15 Rick Langford 1980-10-02 OAK @CHW L 4-9 CG 8 ,L 8 15 9 8 1 2 1 19 39 34 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.00 16 Mike Norris 1980-09-26 OAK MIL L 7-10 CG 9 ,L 9 17 10 10 1 9 4 21 45 44 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 10.00 17 Byron McLaughlin 1980-08-16 SEA OAK L 3-8 GS-8 ,L 8 9 8 8 5 2 3 29 37 32 2 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 9.00 18 Mike Norris 1980-06-16 OAK @BOS W 11-8 CG 9 ,W 9 12 8 8 2 3 3 32 41 39 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8.00
These are mostly pretty good pitchers. Hentgen and Norris are on there twice.
Britt Burns and Norris actually won a game under these circumstances!
August 26th, 2009 at 9:27 am
The 76 pitches for Hentgen is obviously incorrect. If you check the boxscore you can see that for some reason, pitch data is only available for some of the innings. Showing a pitch count for that game is very misleading. It's probably better not to display that data at all. Or display it only in a limited way within the play-by-play account, but it should not come up as a "total" when one reads the boxscore or does a search such as Andy's. Someone is going to repeat that misinformation as gospel somewhere else.
August 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Wow, Big Unit still got 12K's into his game! Check out the list of most runs allowed with 10K. Ryan and Johnson dominate, as you'd expect.
August 26th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
For the two in which the pitcher won, I'm guessing that they were games in which they were spotted a big lead early and then were kept in the game even as the lead began to (perhaps gradually) shrink. Some of the closer losses, such as the 13-12 game, may have also been similar.
August 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
DoubleDiamond, you don't have to guess - you can click on the entry in the Date column and go right to the linescore. E.g., for the Britt Burns game, you find
(sorry, don't have the html skills to make it line up right)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
- - - - - - - - - - - -
White Sox 0 2 2 5 0 0 1 0 0 10 12 0
Orioles 0 0 0 3 5 0 0 0 0 8 8 1
So he was leading 9-0 going into the bottom of the 4th, let the Orioles close within 1 run in the 4th and 5th, and held the lead with shutout pitching thereafter.
August 27th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Come on gerry---guessing is so much more fun. You take the magic out of everything! 🙂