What are these numbers?
Posted by John Autin on October 22, 2011
I've tried a few mystery challenges in these pages, but I've yet to stump the experts for long.
Let's see if this one can up the ante:
What do the following totals represent?
.239 BA / .316 OBP / .392 SLG / .709 OPS
23 HR, 91 RBI, 87 R
764 PA, 678 AB
31 2B, 2 3B
162 H, 66 BB, 7 IBB, 144 SO, 12 HBP, 5 SH, 3 SF, 10 ROE, 16 GDP
11 SB, 8 CS
Compiled by 97 different players ... none of them named Cliff Clavin.
Individual leaders: 9 games, 39 PAs, 9 hits, 3 HR, 8 RBI.
There is a timely reason to mention these stats.
Let the questions begin!
October 22nd, 2011 at 1:03 am
World Series DHs?
October 22nd, 2011 at 1:04 am
that is just INSANE ! lol
October 22nd, 2011 at 1:09 am
I GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!
Yes, they are the combined totals of all DHs in the World Series.
Well done, Joshua P.!
How did you get it so quickly? Did I give it away by saying there was a timely reason?
October 22nd, 2011 at 1:37 am
Yeah, between the BA (I literally did not have to look past this), and the "timely" hint meaning it had to be World Series something, I figured that was it.
October 22nd, 2011 at 2:58 am
That is lower production that I would have expected from the DH. They played through the recent offensive era, & while the top starters only get most starts & thus pitching has an advantage, I would have thought the DH could do better.
Who agrees? And how did all other WS hitters do since the DH came in?
October 22nd, 2011 at 3:17 am
Too many of these DH's are NL bench players, that's part of why the numbers are poor.
October 22nd, 2011 at 6:39 am
How do these averages compare with those of position players? I'm wondering if overall WS offensive performance is not so impressive.
October 22nd, 2011 at 7:11 am
NL DHs do better than AL DHs
October 22nd, 2011 at 8:30 am
Looks a lot like a Rubin Sierra season when he was just past his prime but not yet a bench player. I know it's not-just feels that way
October 22nd, 2011 at 9:23 am
For the World Series DH era 1976-2011, I get the following numbers for position players (no P, PH, DH, PR):
BA 0.259
OBP 0.332
SA 0.400
Assuming I did it right, not necessarily a safe assumption...
October 22nd, 2011 at 9:54 am
can you run those numbers through a Similarity Scores algorithm? what player's career is most like that?
October 22nd, 2011 at 10:45 am
Interesting that it works out to basically a full season's worth of numbers, at least judging by the PA/ABs.
October 22nd, 2011 at 11:14 am
I think it is a ‘team’s' post season batting?
Am I warm?
October 22nd, 2011 at 11:16 am
oops didn’t see it was got.
October 22nd, 2011 at 11:47 am
@11: Steve Buechele is one guy whose career numbers would produce very similar results over a 764 PA stretch. BTW, for Buechele fans, Steve's son Garrett played in A ball in the Giants' system this season after being drafted by San Francisco in June. And if you don't remember Steve, his name is pronounced Boo-shell.
October 22nd, 2011 at 3:41 pm
@6 Very true, what are the numbers for the AL DH only? Wonder if the AL DH gets his rhythm messed up because he now either has to play the field, or he sits in the NL park. Michael Young playing first is a big advantage for the Rangers, they did not lose a big bat and Young has good range, it helped them sneak out of StL with a win.
October 22nd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
I meant to follow up with the AL/NL splits, but was so crestfallen at the speed of Joshua's answer that I forgot. I'll try to get them up soon....
October 22nd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
The AL/NL splits for World Series DHs are virtually the same:
AL -- .234 BA / .320 OBP / .382 SLG / .702 OPS
NL -- .244 BA / .312 OBP / .403 SLG / .715 OPS
AL -- 11 HR / 48 RBI / 48 Runs
NL -- 12 HR / 43 RBI / 39 Runs
AL -- 15 2B / 1 3B / 3 SB / 3 CS / 7 GDP
NL -- 16 2B / 1 3B / 8 SB / 5 CS / 9 GDP
AL -- 36 BB / 4 IBB / 73 SO / 8 HBP
NL -- 30 BB / 3 IBB / 71 SO / 4 HBP
October 22nd, 2011 at 8:20 pm
The HR leader among WS DHs is an NL player, Ryan Klesko, with 3.
Klesko hit 1 each in games 3, 4 and 5 of the '95 WS.
October 22nd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
I haven't watched much AL this year, but when the heck did Nelson Cruz turn into 2002 Barry Bonds?
October 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 pm
I apologize if this has already been brought up but I'd be interested to find out what championship team used the most pitchers in a World Series --- only because it appears that IF the Cardinals win it, they're going to shatter whatever the previous record was. It'd be cool if it was broken down into most used in a 4-game series, 5-game series, etc.
October 23rd, 2011 at 12:12 am
These numbers are ... 3 home runs for The Machine! 🙂
October 23rd, 2011 at 12:48 am
The cancerous umpires did it again.
They decided to make up what Denkinger had done on today.
The collapse of the Rangers didn't occur until they messed up.
One day an umpire who made a crucial bad call will end up like K-daffy. I look forward seeing the day soon.
October 23rd, 2011 at 1:28 am
Yesterday the poll on ESPN.com was whether or not Pujols - who was 0-6 at the time - was choking in the World Series. A ridiculous question to ask, considering the small sample size.
I think he answered tonight.
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:44 am
I missed the theme of the "All-Time Cardinals/Rangers Team", due to my lazy perusing of same thread topic, lack of free time, etc etc excuses, excuses. Got me! I'll plead guilty, and eat the 50$ fine, and time served. OK.
But, man, to call for the death of umpires, on not just one thread, but multiple threads.....damn. I barely had time to make this comment. Don't you like, have a f***en' life, or something??
THAT is the issue here, not the umpiring, but, rather, that you Don't. Have. A. Life.
Get one, maybe?
October 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 am
Those who coddel umpires and protect and rationalize their bad calls tend to be former umpires or members of law enforcement.
They simply can't grasp the fact that umpires have ceased to be relevant in this technologically advanced world.
K-daffy messed up Libya for only 43 years, while umpires messed up baseball for more than a century. It is time to show that they can be struck back for all the bad deeds, attitudes and missed calls.
October 23rd, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Your hint gave it away. My guess was NL DH's. Very hard to believe there have only been 23 homers.
October 23rd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Who is Cliff Clavin? The original question had the answer that Cliff wasn't the one. Did such a person even exist?
October 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
@28 - Search Youtube for Cliff Clavin Jeopardy. Funniest scene in the history of television.