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Fastest to a 5-hit game

Posted by John Autin on August 11, 2011

In his 16th career game tonight, Cleveland 2B Jason Kipnis went 5 for 5, with a double and a HR (his 6th in 61 ABs) in Cleveland's 10-3 rout of Detroit.

Here are the other 25 players since 1919 to have a 5-hit game by their 16th career game.
Spot the surprise name (and I don't mean Mark Reynolds), and check out the career of the lone repeater:

Rk Gcar Player Date Tm Opp Rslt PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF ROE GDP SB CS WPA RE24 aLI BOP Pos. Summary
1 9 Josh Anderson 2007-09-16 HOU PIT W 15-3 6 5 2 5 1 0 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.114 3.136 .297 2 CF
2 10 Mark Reynolds 2007-05-25 ARI HOU W 13-3 5 5 4 5 0 1 2 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.186 4.917 .766 4 3B
3 16 Fred Lewis 2007-05-13 SFG COL W 15-2 6 6 3 5 1 1 1 4 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.274 4.608 .879 1 CF
4 14 Andre Ethier 2006-05-19 LAD LAA W 16-3 6 5 4 5 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0.116 2.986 .582 7 LF
5 13 Matt Kata 2003-06-30 ARI COL W 8-7 6 6 3 5 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.468 2.553 1.653 1 2B
6 10 Junior Spivey 2001-06-21 ARI COL W 14-5 6 6 3 5 0 1 0 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.157 3.741 .552 2 2B
7 10 Shane Spencer 1998-08-07 (2) NYY KCR W 14-2 5 5 4 5 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.196 5.347 .696 7 RF
8 8 Brant Brown 1996-06-22 CHC SDP W 9-6 9 9 1 5 1 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0.308 1.305 1.931 2 1B
9 5 Mike Lansing 1993-04-11 MON COL W 19-9 7 7 3 5 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.124 2.360 .656 2 2B
10 6 Alex Arias 1992-09-07 CHC PIT W 6-5 5 5 0 5 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.284 2.240 1.478 8 SS
11 5 John Wehner 1991-07-23 PIT ATL W 12-3 5 5 3 5 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.126 2.138 .642 6 3B
12 10 Tim Teufel 1983-09-16 MIN TOR W 11-4 5 5 5 5 0 1 2 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.148 3.395 .382 1 2B
13 12 Dave Collins 1975-06-20 CAL TEX W 12-11 6 6 1 5 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0.955 3.836 2.596 9 LF
14 12 Mel Stottlemyre 1964-09-26 NYY WSA W 7-0 5 5 1 5 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.067 2.200 .256 9 P
15 9 Hank Aaron 1954-04-25 MLN STL L 6-7 6 6 1 5 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.389 2.678 1.610 6 RF
16 8 Wally Moon 1954-04-23 STL MLN L 5-7 6 5 2 5 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.526 2.260 1.439 2 CF
17 13 Jim Fridley 1952-04-29 CLE PHA W 21-9 6 6 4 6 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.082 2.647 .203 6 RF LF
18 12 Joe Tipton 1948-06-06 (2) CLE PHA W 11-1 5 5 2 5 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 8 C
19 13 Dick Whitman 1946-05-01 BRO CHC W 5-1 5 5 2 5 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.000 0.000 7 CF
20 14 Marv Rickert 1946-04-25 CHC CIN L 5-7 5 5 2 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 5 CF
21 14 Leo Norris 1936-04-28 PHI PIT W 9-7 5 5 2 5 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 6 SS
22 1 Cecil Travis 1933-05-16 WSH CLE W 11-10 7 7 3 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 6 3B
23 12 Joe Vosmik 1931-04-18 CLE CHW W 11-2 5 5 1 5 3 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 6 LF
24 16 Maurice Archdeacon 1923-10-02 CHW DET L 5-7 5 5 4 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 0.000 1 CF
25 7 Maurice Archdeacon 1923-09-22 (2) CHW PHA W 6-2 5 5 2 5 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0.000 0.000 1 CF
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Generated 8/10/2011.

Those who did it an extra-inning game: Aaron, Arias, Brown, Collins, Kata, Moon and Travis. (Not necessarily saying that they needed extra innings to get to 5 hits.)

48 Responses to “Fastest to a 5-hit game”

  1. Seth Dussault Says:

    Is the surprise Mel Stottlemyre, since he was a P?

  2. zuke Says:

    dick "the mad man" whitman!

  3. zuke Says:

    ooh mel stottlemyre is definitely more surprising than a guy who has the same name as a fictional character.

  4. John Autin Says:

    Sure, Stottlemyre was the intended "surprise" (not that there couldn't be others). Did you check out his all-around game? -- a 2-hit shutout (first hit was by Don Zimmer!), and 5 for 5 with 2 RBI.

    Stottlemyre had just one other 3-hit game in his career.

  5. Raphy Says:

    Interesting list, John.

    As usual with these early career lists, there's not of staying power on the list. Although, I must say that this one does pack a fair share of power.

    Here is the list sorted by career hits (through 8/9/11). Although he had the lowest career BA by far, Mel Stottlemyre did not have the fewest career hits.

    Rk Player H From To Age G PA AB R 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Pos Tm
    1 Hank Aaron 3771 1954 1976 20-42 3298 13940 12364 2174 624 98 755 2297 1402 293 1383 32 21 121 328 240 73 .305 .374 .555 .928 *9783D/45 MLN-ATL-MIL
    2 Joe Vosmik 1682 1930 1944 20-34 1414 6084 5472 818 335 92 65 874 514 0 272 21 77 0 38 23 24 .307 .369 .438 .807 *7/98 CLE-SLB-BOS-BRO-WSH
    3 Cecil Travis 1544 1933 1947 19-33 1328 5414 4914 665 265 78 27 657 402 0 291 31 67 0 51 23 32 .314 .370 .416 .786 *65/974 WSH
    4 Wally Moon 1399 1954 1965 24-35 1458 5566 4843 737 212 60 142 661 644 56 591 13 31 35 121 89 68 .289 .371 .445 .817 7983 STL-LAD
    5 Dave Collins 1335 1975 1990 22-37 1701 5507 4907 667 187 52 32 373 467 16 660 38 64 31 59 395 139 .272 .338 .351 .689 7983D CAL-SEA-CIN-NYY-TOR-OAK-DET-STL
    6 Mike Lansing 1124 1993 2001 25-33 1110 4551 4150 554 254 17 84 440 299 17 570 37 43 22 116 119 38 .271 .324 .401 .725 *465 MON-COL-TOT-BOS
    7 Andre Ethier 849 2006 2011 24-29 832 3276 2895 410 193 18 108 435 314 41 540 32 1 34 64 19 18 .293 .365 .484 .849 *97/D3 LAD
    8 Tim Teufel 789 1983 1993 24-34 1073 3562 3112 415 185 12 86 379 387 23 531 12 27 24 85 23 19 .254 .336 .404 .740 *4/53D6 MIN-NYM-TOT-SDP
    9 Mark Reynolds 562 2007 2011 23-27 675 2730 2360 383 115 10 147 408 319 16 898 26 2 23 39 47 18 .238 .332 .482 .815 *5/349 ARI-BAL
    10 Alex Arias 470 1992 2002 24-34 775 2010 1773 203 84 6 18 196 181 14 211 23 17 16 47 10 5 .265 .338 .350 .688 65/43 CHC-FLA-PHI-SDP-NYY
    11 Shane Spencer 438 1998 2004 26-32 538 1867 1671 208 84 8 59 242 152 4 357 17 4 23 23 13 11 .262 .326 .428 .754 *79/D38 NYY-TOT-NYM
    12 Junior Spivey 419 2001 2005 26-30 457 1785 1553 258 90 12 48 201 175 8 373 35 9 13 30 32 15 .270 .354 .436 .790 *4/68 ARI-MIL-TOT
    13 Fred Lewis 408 2006 2011 25-30 502 1703 1511 253 91 21 27 135 162 9 376 20 3 7 23 52 22 .270 .347 .412 .759 *7/98D SFG-TOR-CIN
    14 Marv Rickert 284 1942 1950 21-29 402 1248 1149 139 45 9 19 145 88 0 161 2 9 0 34 4 1 .247 .302 .352 .653 79/83 CHC-BSN-TOT
    15 Joe Tipton 264 1948 1954 26-32 417 1324 1117 116 36 5 29 125 186 0 142 11 9 1 25 3 3 .236 .351 .355 .706 *2 CLE-CHW-PHA-TOT-WSH
    16 Brant Brown 261 1996 2000 25-29 424 1150 1056 142 52 11 45 146 74 6 316 10 3 7 11 15 14 .247 .301 .445 .746 87/93D CHC-PIT-TOT
    17 Leo Norris 252 1936 1937 28-29 270 1055 962 109 51 7 20 112 60 0 132 3 30 0 21 7 0 .262 .307 .392 .699 *64/5 PHI
    18 John Wehner 200 1991 2001 24-34 461 897 804 99 33 4 4 54 73 5 136 1 16 3 18 15 7 .249 .311 .315 .626 5/7983462 PIT-FLA
    19 Matt Kata 166 2003 2009 25-31 278 762 695 89 37 9 12 63 48 2 126 4 10 5 11 9 4 .239 .290 .370 .660 4/5673D9 ARI-TOT-HOU
    20 Dick Whitman 165 1946 1951 25-30 285 701 638 93 37 3 2 67 51 0 46 3 9 0 15 10 0 .259 .316 .335 .652 /789 BRO-PHI
    21 Josh Anderson 132 2007 2009 24-26 179 519 486 73 17 5 4 47 26 2 82 4 2 1 8 36 7 .272 .313 .352 .665 /879D HOU-ATL-TOT
    22 Maurice Archdeacon 128 1923 1925 24-26 128 449 384 84 14 4 0 29 48 0 39 4 13 0 0 13 10 .333 .413 .391 .803 /*879 CHW
    23 Mel Stottlemyre 120 1964 1974 22-32 366 846 749 54 13 6 7 57 47 0 270 4 42 4 14 0 2 .160 .213 .222 .434 *1 NYY
    24 Jim Fridley 105 1952 1958 27-33 152 468 424 50 12 5 8 53 35 0 83 3 5 1 16 3 4 .248 .309 .356 .665 *7/9 CLE-BAL-CIN
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
    Generated 8/11/2011.
  6. RobMer Says:

    Really? A person has the name Archdeacon?

  7. mccombe35 Says:

    So it happened 11 times from '91 - '07 & just 14 times from '19 - '90?

    Roids again!

  8. RobMer Says:

    One thing that's clear looking at that list is getting a five-hit game early in a career doesn't mean much. Hank Aaron and Mel Stottlemyre are probably the two best players on the list, and one was a pitcher!

  9. mccombe35 Says:

    Brant Brown is a good name for today with the Santo statue thing going on. Chicago guys will know that connection haha

  10. Gonzo Says:

    Funny. If you click on Dick Whitman's page, his nickname is actually Don Draper.

  11. Jimbo Says:

    Mark Reynolds.

    I would've expected him to have a 5 strikeout game, not a 5 hit game.

  12. Dave Says:

    Lansing is the fastest to do it from the start of his career and the start of the season (game #5)

  13. essman Says:

    So Cecil Travis got five hits in his first game, played eight more games in May (at which time he was hitting .310), and then didn't play again until mid-September?

  14. Charles Says:

    Cecil Travis was filling in for the injured Ossie Bluege in May.

    Maurice Archdeacon held the world record at the time for fastest time in circling the bases. He was sold to the Baltimore Orioles in exchange for the rights to pick any player off their roster. Jack Dunn, owner of the Orioles, thought they would pick Joe Boley. Instead they picked Alphonse Thomas, their 32 game winner that year (105 games in 5 years) who Dunn felt was worth up to 100K.

  15. Tristram Says:

    So what happened to Archdeacon in '25?

  16. Tristram Says:

    Oh, and a shout-out to over-achiever Big Jim Fridley who delivered 6 hits!

  17. Charles Says:

    He was sent to the Orioles in June, 1925 as described in post @14. Minor leagues at that time were independent. The Orioles held on to their best players and eventually might sell them to a major league team for cash. It was not uncommon for players, especially pitchers, to spend years in the minors. Lefty Grove won 111 games in the minors before his major league debut at the age of 25 because he was under contract with the Orioles. The deal with the Orioles for the White Sox to get to pick one player from the Orioles in exchange for Archdeacon was considered a very shrewd deal for the White Sox when they picked Thomas. Archdeacon played well for the Orioles.
    His role in 1924 was the fourth outfielder. It looks like the White Sox saw him as being more valuable in using him to get a player from the Orioles.

  18. Andy Says:

    When I first saw this post I thought it said S-hit and not 5-hit, and that perhaps JA wrote that to avoid putting a swear word in the title...

  19. therood Says:

    @9 - Here's the audio:

    http://www.northtonorth.com/pages/soundclips/santoohno.mp3

    And the archive page:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL199809230.shtml

    As you look at the win probability chart, you can actually hear Ron Santo's "OOOOOHHHHHH NOOOOOOOO!!!" at the point of that precipitous drop (literally and graphically) to end the game.

  20. Larry R. Says:

    Aaron and Moon did it in the same series...strange indeed!

    And, if memory serves, Lansing also had his cycle in Denver. He should have demanded a trade to the Rockies.

  21. nightfly Says:

    The four lost games among the teams with a kid 5-hitter ended in scores of 5-7, 5-7, 5-7, and 6-7. I love weird stuff like that.

  22. John Autin Says:

    Charles -- Good explanation of Maurice Archdeacon's career.

    I'd add that he came along at a bad time for high-average, no-power outfielders. The entire starting OF for the '24 White Sox batted at least .325 with OBPs over .400; Archdeacon hit similarly as the 4th wheel, but with just .053 isolated power. He never did hit a big-league HR, and hit just 26 HRs in a 12-year minor-league career (.313 BA).

  23. nightfly Says:

    Also featured in that Braves/Cards series -

    Aaron's first career home run, off of Vic Raschi, in Moon's 5-hit game;
    Moon picked off first by Warren Spahn, after a walk, in Hank's 5-hit game;
    The Cards using Harvey Haddix as a pinch-runner;
    Two spots later, using the much-less-famous Joe Frazier as a pinch-hitter;
    Joe Adcock, who would end Haddix' most famous game five years later on a homer-turned-double (and there's one for Rule 10.06!);
    Stan the Man, Eddie Mathews, Red Schoendienst, and Lew Burdette.

    Fun little series.

  24. John Autin Says:

    Jim Fridley is one of 6 players since 1919 with an all-singles 6-hit game in regulation ... last done by Raul Ibanez in 2004:
    http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ANA/ANA200409220.shtml

  25. Neil L. Says:

    Looking at career games played (thanks, Raphy, for the list including hitting statistics) I agree with Robmer @8 and Raphy that it is surprising how little longevity there is for players accomplishng this.

    Getting a five-hit game this early in your career seems to correlate weakly with being a reasonable average hitter, but not much else, not even a long stay in the bigs.

    So what percentage of having a game like Jason Kipnis's this early in your career a function of:
    1. randomness/luck?
    2. a good batting eye?
    3. opposition pitchers being unfamiliar with you?

    Both Johnny Giavotella and Brett Lawrie will be hard-pressed to match his .295/.358/.656 after 67 plate appearances. Kipnis's body of work, as shown in his slashes, combined with the five-hit game, may suggest a long and productive career. It may say he more is like a Dave Collins than a Matt Kata.

  26. Neil L. Says:

    Interesting that Fred Lewis was the only one to hit for the cycle on JA's list, including Kipnis last night. John Wehner the only one to make the list with all singles.

    I also found it interesting the number of players on the list who had a triple as part of their five-hit game. The ratio of triples to doubles, 7 to 18, is way higher than for all major-league at-bats. The difference there is too high to be noise, I think, but I'm not sure what it tells us.

    And, finally, Jimbo's post @11 made me think more closely about Mark Reynolds' presence on John's list.

    First off, his and Tim Tuefel's SLG were insane, 1.800. It looks as if Mark Reynolds may have had the game of his career already. But with what we know now about Mark's penchant for non-contact, his 10th career game is surprising. I wonder how he evolved into the hitter he is today?

  27. bluejaysstatsgeek Says:

    @26, Neil: Travis, Rickert and Fridley had all singles too.

    I was about to post about the only cycle when I saw your post.

  28. Kahuna Tuna Says:

    if memory serves, Lansing also had his cycle in Denver. He should have demanded a trade to the Rockies.

    Memory serves, Larry. (-;þ The Expos won that game, 19-9. I can just imagine the entire Expos team crowding around former teammate Andrés Galarraga after the game, congratulating him on his upcoming Triple Crown.

    I knew that the Denver Bears used to be the AAA affiliate of the Expos, so I wondered whether 1993 rookie Lansing had played there the season before. No — turns out the Montreal-Denver affiliation ended after 1981, and the renamed Zephyrs had been the Brewers' AAA team for the last few pre-Rockies seasons. Lansing played in Harrisburg in 1992.

    Here's something interesting I found when looking at the 1981 Denver Bears page. One of the team's best starting pitchers was lefthander Norm Angelini, a 33-year-old career minor leaguer who pitched 19⅔ innings for the 1972-73 Royals. That's all the time he got in the big leagues, yet he was still pitching — effectively — in the high minors eight years later. Talk about playing for the love of the game!

  29. Neil L. Says:

    Thanks for the correction @27, BJSG, you are absolutely right.

  30. Neil L. Says:

    @24
    Also, totally missed your post about singles, JA, when writing #26. Duhh! 🙁

  31. bluejaysstatsgeek Says:

    @30, Neil: You're supposed to be paying attention to the guy with the white shirt in CF! Get with it, man! 🙂

  32. Kahuna Tuna Says:

    #18 on John's chart, Joe Tipton, whose claim to fame is that he was later traded even up for future HOFer Nellie Fox, also makes the (very long) list of players with at least one three-RBI game in their first five games in the majors.

    Twenty players in the PI Era registered two three-RBI games in their first five major-league games: Hank Arft, John Bowker, Joe Cunningham, Pete Fox, Tommy Henrich, Sam Horn, Mike Jacobs, Rocky Jordan, Dave Kingman, Kevin Kouzmanoff, Hal Lanier (!), Willard Marshall, Jack Merson, Walter Mueller, Dave Nilsson, Arquímedez Pozo (!!), Albert Pujols, Ed Sanicki, Enos Slaughter, and Dick Stuart.

    Hank Arft and John Bowker. Woof.

  33. Doug B Says:

    Archdeacon batting average in the minors:

    .310 in 1925
    .328 in 1926
    .338 in 1927

  34. Doug B Says:

    also... Archdeacon had 2 MORE 5 hit games in 1925!

  35. Neil L. Says:

    @31
    BJSG, if you check my off-topic post about Brett Lawrie in the last blog, you'll see I called the ESPN, The Magazine article "a crock".

    Peter King was hard-pressed on Prime Time Sports yesterday, when questioned by Bob McCowan to defend the article although he fell back on the statistics. He admitted the four players who were "sources" for the article were from the same team although he wouldn't say which one.

    You and I know, rumour says it is the Chicago White Sox who have some grudge against Toronto to begin with.

    I loved Alex Anthopoulos's "rebuttal" of the article yesterday in his press conference.

  36. bluejaysstatsgeek Says:

    @35, Neil:
    I listened to Peter Keating's interview on PTS as well as AA's press conference, too.

    I'm going to Friday's game. I'm going to wear a white shirt, instead of my usual blue shirt, and make fake binoculars with a couple of Starbuck's "vente" cups, similar to what Janssen did yesterday in the bullpen. I wanted to get one of the "Spydome" t-shirts

    http://www.bluejayhunter.com/2011/08/spydome-t-shirts-now-on-sale.html

    but there's no way it would arrive before the game.

    BTW, I'm going to welcome back Vernon Wells with a big cheer. He may have turned into a lousy ball player, but he's a class act.

  37. Ted Says:

    This post was very interesting, especially that Maurice Archdeacon guy.
    This question has nothing to do with the post but i noticed that the August 6th game between Toronto and Baltimore to be intriguing, given the fact Baltimore left no one on but still managed to score six runs. Is that the first time a team scored more than 5 runs and left no one on?

  38. Kahuna Tuna Says:

    the August 6th game between Toronto and Baltimore . . . Is that the first time a team scored more than 5 runs and left no one on?

    No, the August 6 Orioles-Blue Jays game was the 37th since 1919 in which a team scoring 6+ runs left no one on base. I hope this link will let you see the full list.

  39. Ted Says:

    thanks kahina tuna

  40. ottoc Says:

    Just an aside to this: John Wehner's father, Frank, is the co-holder of the most total bases in a game for the Carolina League (15 with 3 HR and a triple).

  41. John Autin Says:

    Ted, I touched on that Baltimore 0-LOB game in my Saturday evening post (ha-ha). But now that you've been served box scores by Kahuna Tuna, you won't need another meal for a while.

  42. John Autin Says:

    @40, Ottoc -- Thanks for the Fran Wehner note; I didn't know John's dad was a ballplayer. I see that he had the misfortune to be an OF in the Yankees' system for most of the '50s; not many job openings at the top of that ladder. He led the Carolina League in slugging in 1955. But he never seemed to play a full season.

    He was also near the top of the Piedmont League in slugging in '53, but was overshadowed by teammate Jerry Lynch, who led in BA, SLG, 2B, 3B (33 2B / 22 3B / 21 HR), and wound up with a pretty good career with the Pirates & Reds.

  43. DoubleDiamond Says:

    Here's another interesting claim-to-fame for Mike Lansing.

    Over the years, there have been independent, non-affiliated minor league teams in the National Association minor leagues - that is, the minor leagues in which the affiliated farm teams play, as opposed to the minor leagues known as the independent minor leagues. I don't think there have been any in recent years.

    During years when there were independent teams in the National Association, they were permitted to participate in the baseball amateur draft, choosing players like the major league teams. Mike Lansing was one such player who was drafted this way. Here's what it says on his player page here:

    "Drafted by Miami (Florida State) in the 6th round of the 1990 amateur draft."

    I recall reading somewhere that he was either the only player drafted by such a team to make the majors or the most notable player drafted by such a team.

  44. Jimbo Says:

    So does anyone know what happened to Archdeacon? So much promise and then just fizzles and disappears.

  45. Charles Says:

    @38 The 7/7/1919 game makes no sense 44 PA with 27 outs and 9 runs. What happened to the other 8 batters? I found the newspaper article and it says LOB 8 and for Pittsburgh 3. I also noticed in the stats that they used the term "First base on balls" rather than "Base on balls". All the other games on that page said "Base on balls"

  46. Charles Says:

    @44 Check out post 14 and 17.

  47. John Autin Says:

    @43, DoubleDiamond -- Nice find on Lansing's draft. I did not know that independent NA teams had participated in the draft.

  48. Kahuna Tuna Says:

    The 7/7/1919 game makes no sense 44 PA with 27 outs and 9 runs. What happened to the other 8 batters?

    I agree with you on this one, Charles. I calculate 8 theoretical LOB for the Cardinals. The game shouldn't be on the zero-LOB list.

    The Retrosheet box score also shows zero LOB for the Cardinals.

    Do you want to report the bug to Sean, or shall I? (-;þ

    I found the newspaper article and it says LOB 8 and for Pittsburgh 3.

    Now that the initial wave of intimidation has passed, I'll ask: Did you find the article on line, or did you go back into the microfiche files? That's really doing the research.