Just how bad is Albert Pujols’ season?
Posted by Andy on June 6, 2011
Albert Pujols is having a subpar season by his own amazing standards. (OK, I wrote this post minutes before Pujols' second straight walkoff HR. Give me a break!)
Through Saturday, he had a 127 OPS+ in this, his age 31 season. Since 1901, a total of 107 players have qualified for the batting title in their Age 31 season with an OPS+ between 122 and 132.
That group of players includes names such as Hi Myers, Heinie Peitz, Moose Solters, David Dellucci, Randy Winn, Nixey Callahan, Johnny Kling, Jeff Blauser, and Al Zarilla. That's not exactly fantastic company.
Of course, the group also includes Tris Speaker, Frank Thomas, Chuck Klein, Arky Vaughn, Larry Doby, Chick Hafey, Al Simmons, Zack Wheat, and Johnny Bench.
It's all the more striking given similar comparisons to other years from Pujols' career. For example, here are all the players to have an OPS+ between 185 and 195 in their year 28 season:
Rk | Player | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | |||||
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1 | Albert Pujols | 2008 | 190 | 28 | STL | NL | 148 | 641 | 524 | 100 | 187 | 44 | 0 | 37 | 116 | 104 | 34 | 54 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 16 | 7 | 3 | .357 | .462 | .653 | 1.114 | *3/D4 |
2 | Manny Ramirez | 2000 | 186 | 28 | CLE | AL | 118 | 532 | 439 | 92 | 154 | 34 | 2 | 38 | 122 | 86 | 9 | 117 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 1 | .351 | .457 | .697 | 1.154 | *9D |
3 | Lou Gehrig | 1931 | 194 | 28 | NYY | AL | 155 | 738 | 619 | 163 | 211 | 31 | 15 | 46 | 184 | 117 | 0 | 56 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 17 | 12 | .341 | .446 | .662 | 1.108 | *3/9 |
4 | Harry Heilmann | 1923 | 194 | 28 | DET | AL | 144 | 626 | 524 | 121 | 211 | 44 | 11 | 18 | 115 | 74 | 0 | 40 | 5 | 23 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 7 | .403 | .481 | .632 | 1.113 | *93 |
5 | Ty Cobb | 1915 | 185 | 28 | DET | AL | 156 | 700 | 563 | 144 | 208 | 31 | 13 | 3 | 99 | 118 | 0 | 43 | 10 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 96 | 38 | .369 | .486 | .487 | .973 | *8 |
That's been done by many fewer players and, on average, a much higher class.
Here's another one for Pujols' last season: Age 30, OPS+ between 169 and 179:
Rk | Player | Year | Age | Tm | Lg | G | PA | AB | R | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | SH | SF | GDP | SB | CS | Pos | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Albert Pujols | 2010 | 173 | 30 | STL | NL | 159 | 700 | 587 | 115 | 183 | 39 | 1 | 42 | 118 | 103 | 38 | 76 | 4 | 0 | 6 | 23 | 14 | 4 | .312 | .414 | .596 | 1.011 | *3 |
2 | Jim Thome | 2001 | 170 | 30 | CLE | AL | 156 | 644 | 526 | 101 | 153 | 26 | 1 | 49 | 124 | 111 | 14 | 185 | 4 | 0 | 3 | 9 | 0 | 1 | .291 | .416 | .624 | 1.040 | *3/D |
3 | Larry Walker | 1997 | 178 | 30 | COL | NL | 153 | 664 | 568 | 143 | 208 | 46 | 4 | 49 | 130 | 78 | 14 | 90 | 14 | 0 | 4 | 15 | 33 | 8 | .366 | .452 | .720 | 1.172 | *9/38D |
4 | Mike Schmidt | 1980 | 171 | 30 | PHI | NL | 150 | 652 | 548 | 104 | 157 | 25 | 8 | 48 | 121 | 89 | 10 | 119 | 2 | 0 | 13 | 6 | 12 | 5 | .286 | .380 | .624 | 1.004 | *5 |
5 | Joe Torre | 1971 | 171 | 30 | STL | NL | 161 | 707 | 634 | 97 | 230 | 34 | 8 | 24 | 137 | 63 | 20 | 70 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 18 | 4 | 1 | .363 | .421 | .555 | .976 | *5 |
6 | Rico Carty | 1970 | 170 | 30 | ATL | NL | 136 | 560 | 478 | 84 | 175 | 23 | 3 | 25 | 101 | 77 | 6 | 46 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 19 | 1 | 2 | .366 | .454 | .584 | 1.037 | *7 |
7 | Carl Yastrzemski | 1970 | 177 | 30 | BOS | AL | 161 | 697 | 566 | 125 | 186 | 29 | 0 | 40 | 102 | 128 | 12 | 66 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 12 | 23 | 13 | .329 | .452 | .592 | 1.044 | *37/8 |
8 | Willie McCovey | 1968 | 174 | 30 | SFG | NL | 148 | 608 | 523 | 81 | 153 | 16 | 4 | 36 | 105 | 72 | 20 | 71 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 10 | 4 | 2 | .293 | .378 | .545 | .923 | *3 |
9 | Mel Ott | 1939 | 174 | 30 | NYG | NL | 125 | 508 | 396 | 85 | 122 | 23 | 2 | 27 | 80 | 100 | 0 | 50 | 1 | 11 | 0 | 5 | 2 | 0 | .308 | .449 | .581 | 1.030 | *95 |
10 | Lou Gehrig | 1933 | 176 | 30 | NYY | AL | 152 | 687 | 593 | 138 | 198 | 41 | 12 | 32 | 139 | 92 | 0 | 42 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 13 | .334 | .424 | .605 | 1.030 | *3 |
11 | Hack Wilson | 1930 | 177 | 30 | CHC | NL | 155 | 709 | 585 | 146 | 208 | 35 | 6 | 56 | 191 | 105 | 0 | 84 | 1 | 18 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | .356 | .454 | .723 | 1.177 | *8 |
It's the same story.
It's true for all players (and in fact all people) that they won't stay at their peaks forever. Pujols has to decline sometime. Thankfully, at just age 31, it seems a lot more likely that he's either distracted by his contract status or has some injury than he's just lost it.
June 6th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Sorry to go off topic, but I thought Hack Wilson's 1930 RBI total had been revised to 189. Has it been re-revised back to 191?
June 6th, 2011 at 9:30 am
@1...I thought it was 190?
June 6th, 2011 at 9:45 am
It was originally 190, then revised to 191 in the mid-1990s.
June 6th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Pujols started to take off last year, right around Memorial Day, also. I think he had a three-home run game against...the Cubs.
June 6th, 2011 at 10:20 am
I think we have Hack Wilson's day-by-day stats now, so whatever is here now (and at Retrosheet) is probably more accurate than it used to be.
June 6th, 2011 at 10:36 am
It was Cobb's hit total that was revised down. From 4191 to 4189.
This post made me thing off oddly "off" year by otherwise consistent superstars. Ike Frank Thomas-98 or Rogers Hornsby-26.
June 6th, 2011 at 10:47 am
@6 So does that mean Pete Rose actually became the all-time hits leader on September 8, 1985 with a 1st inning single off of Reggie Patterson (in a game that for some reason ended in a 5-5 tie)?
They probably didn't even have the scoreboard ready with the announcement!
June 6th, 2011 at 11:12 am
@6, @7/ Mistertmo Says: "@6 So does that mean Pete Rose actually became the all-time hits leader on September 8, 1985 with a 1st inning single off of Reggie Patterson (in a game that for some reason ended in a 5-5 tie)?..."
Mistertmo, as I recall, shortly before Rose broke the all-time hits record, it was brought to the attention of MLB by a baseball historian (Pete Palmer, perhaps?) that Ty Cobb's actual career hits total was 4189, _not_ 4191. This was due to one of Cobb's box scores being "double-counted" in the 1910 season, which also gave him the batting title over Nap Lajoie.,.
The commisioner's official response was something like "Well, thank you very much for your research, but we are keeping Cobb's career hits total at 4191, despite whatever evidence you present us".
Anyone else recall this?
June 6th, 2011 at 11:36 am
@6 good memory. I found this on a blog. I can't speak to the accuracy, but the quote does sound like something Bowie Kuhn would have said...
Major League Baseball has also preferred to leave numbers alone. A perfect example came in April 1981, when The Sporting News announced that the historian Pete Palmer had discovered that the American League office had double-counted (some suspect intentionally) a two-hit game by Ty Cobb in 1910. The Sporting News contended that Cobb's career hit record should be revised to 4,189 from the well-known total of 4,191.
With baseball preparing to sell Pete Rose's pursuit of Cobb's mark, Commissioner Bowie Kuhn announced, "The passage of 70 years, in our judgment, constitutes a certain statute of limitation as to recognizing any changes."
Cobb's official total of 4,191 has stood to this day, though most encyclopedias and record books use 4,189.
June 6th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Or perhaps he's not 31.
June 6th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
@9/ TheIronHorse - thanks for filling in the details on 4191 vs. 4189. Other well-known fluctuating statistics:
- Hack Wilson's 1930 RBI total (noted above)
- Larry Lajoie's 1901 BA - from .422 to .405 to .426!*
- Ty Cobb's 1911 RBI total: from 144 to 127
- Billy Hamilton's record 1894 Runs Scored total, from 192 to 196 to 198
- Lou Gehrig's increasing RBI total, from 1990 to 1995
- Honus Wagner's ever-fluctuating Career Hits total
- Sam Crawford's career record 3B's total, down from 312 to 309
- Pete Alexander's career Wins total, currently tied w/Christy Mathewson at 373 (but not always in the past)
- Roger Maris' and Mickey Mantle's 1961 Runs Scored totals, Mantle now behind Maris instead of tied
Well, at least Clemente still has exactly 3000 hits!
* many decades ago, someone copied down his "hits" total as 220 instead of 229
June 6th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
@11, Yikes, can you imagine if during research it was discovered that one of Clemente's hits was double counted, and his career total dropped to 2999?
It would be like the movie Mr. 3000, with Clemente not available for a comeback.
Probably unlikely since record keeping was quite good during Clemente's time. Most of the questions go back to the earlier part of the 20th Century.
June 6th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
@12/ Netrigger Says:
June 6th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
@11, Yikes, can you imagine if during research it was discovered that one of Clemente's hits was double counted, and his career total dropped to 2999?... ...Probably unlikely since record keeping was quite good during Clemente's time. Most of the questions go back to the earlier part of the 20th Century."
Yes, Netrigger, the short version of my #11 could be "MLB record-keeping wasn't that good until the middle of the 20th century." But note the discrepancy in Mantle's 1961 Runs Scored total...
June 6th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Most are from earlier in the century. But I am shocked that the records of Mantle and Maris were in error. Seems like any era is prone to mistakes.
June 6th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
@14/ Yes, Dan Berman4, for example I was shocked to find that Hugh Duffy "lost" his 1894 Triple Crown when Sam Thompson's RBI total went from 141 to 147, surpassing Duffy's 145. I know that's more accurate, but certain baseball facts and stats are just engraved in my memory, and it's very difficult to change what I "knew" for decades.
I think there was a similar change with Heinie Zimmerman's RBI total in 1912 where he also lost the Triple Crown.
June 6th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Regarding Pujols, for a while he was 8th on the team in OPS+ among regulars and semi-regulars. Now at 132, he's passed Colby Rasmus (130) and is closing in on Yadier Molina (at 134, he's having a heck of a comeback season after a down year in 2010).
June 6th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
It's interesting that Frank Thomas shows up on Pujols' age 31 list. I was recently thinking about how Pujols might (emphasis on might) be coming down with the same disease as struck the Big Hurt, just a little bit later.
Lest we forget how insanely good Thomas was, he was .330/.452/.600 from age 22 to 29. Pujols was .334/.427/.628 from his first season (at 21) to age 29. At first I was thinking Frank might have benefited from the higher over all level of offense in the mid-90s, but his OPS+ in this time frame comes out to 182 as opposed to Albert's 172.
Then, of course, at 30 Thomas fell to Earth and only ever had one season up to his previous standard after that: for the rest of his career he went only .276/.389/.515 (and averaged only 113 games a season). Pujols made it through 30 all right, but I wouldn't be utterly surprised if he falls the same way.
It doesn't happen to all the greats, to be sure, but there are plenty of truly great hitters who lost it quite quickly around the age of 30-32 and never got it back: Dale Murphy, Ernie Banks, Al Simmons, George Sisler, Ralph Kiner, Orlando Cepeda, Wade Boggs....
June 6th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Wade Boogs?
I thought he just stopped playing half his games in Fenway park? I think his late career numbers are in line with his career road numbers of the first half of his career.
June 6th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
@Jimbo: Losing Fenway couldn't have helped his raw numbers, but even with park adjustment he still dropped off the table at 33. OPS is park adjusted and his age 26-38 numbers run 125, 151, 156, 173, 166, 142, 121, 140 before and 96, 104, 141 (in just 97 games), 119, 98 after.
By WAR he goes from 6's, 7's, and 8's to 1's, 2'3, and 3's.
June 6th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Correction, OPS+ is park corrected -- those are the numbers I posted, in case that's not clear.
June 6th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I saw something go by fast on the ESPN crawl yesterday while eating in a restaurant that was tuned into this channel that said that Albert Belle was the last player before Albert Pujols to hit walk-off home runs in two consecutive games. So the question now is, who was the last player not named Albert to do this? Or did Belle do it early in his career when he was playing under the name of Joey?
June 6th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
@21
Double, when I was looking up high-WPA games yesterday in connection with Albert Pujols, after I sorted alphabetically by clicking on first name I noticed Albert Belle with two games right ahead of Pujols.
I didn't link the search, but I assume these high-WPA games for Belle are the ones ESPN was referring to.
June 6th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Pujols will be playing for the Cubs next year. Zambrano was 100% right on the pitch thrown to Theriot last night. Mike Quade is a great manager as long as he's managing a team that is out of the race, playing against other teams out of the race. The Cubs blew it by not hiring Sandberg! Ryno was awesome, he hit for power, he was a great defensive player, he stole bases. He did not strike out 185 times in a season ever. Rafael Palmiero slept with his wife and for that Palmiero should never be in the hall of fame.
June 9th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
@ Timmy P ... Sadly, as a Cards' fan, I think you're right on Prince Albert. Dunno on Ryno vs. Quade as managers; plenty a great player who wanted to be an MLB manager wasn't cut out for it. Ruth comes immediately to mind, followed by many others.